Swollen arm, Puffy eyes, Crusty mouth. Help!!

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Swollen arm, Puffy eyes, Crusty mouth. Help!!

Postby HippieLizards » Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:20 pm

Lately Cisco's arm has been a little swollen looking, Her eyes have also been swollen looking as well. and The right side of her mouth has been crusting up a lot.

I Have been gently scrubbing the crusty mouth with a soft toothbrush for about two weeks. I Scrub it all off only to find that it had came back within a day. Could it be mouth rot? How Could I treat it?

The arm and eyes have been swollen looking for about a week. Could it be gout? How could I treat those?

She just came out of a semi-hibernation in January. She has been shedding. and Has been a bit more lethargic and always tries to sleep. Her UVB is a exo terra repti-glo 10.0 T8 bulb, Her basking spot is about 104F, Her cool end is around 78F, Her warm end is around 88F. Her substrate is tile. She is 19" and weighs 1 lb 2.1 oz. The tank is soon to be upgraded to a 4ftx19"X18".

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The eyes: [Click image to enlarge]
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The Mouth: [Click image to enlarge]
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Re: Swollen arm, Puffy eyes, Crusty mouth. Help!!

Postby kingofnobbys » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:11 am

I think you have a dragon getting ready to do a shed in places indicated.
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Re: Swollen arm, Puffy eyes, Crusty mouth. Help!!

Postby HippieLizards » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:17 am

Ok, Thank you! :D I will take getting ready for a shed over gout any day. But still what about the mouth? It has been like that for about 3+ weeks. and When it scrubs off, it comes back in a day. Yesterday I forgot to mention that that side of the mouth was bleeding yesterday. Not very bad, but it did seem to irritate her So I gently wiped the blood off with a damp cloth. Is there any ways to treat that? The crusty mouth has been there ever since her last shed.

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Re: Swollen arm, Puffy eyes, Crusty mouth. Help!!

Postby AHBD » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:27 am

I agree that most of that looks shed related. :) But can you post pics of both her front legs in the same picture from the front ? For her mouth just use a dab of raw honey, then be sure there are no loose bugs in the tank.
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Re: Swollen arm, Puffy eyes, Crusty mouth. Help!!

Postby EllenD » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:31 am

I agree, the legs/feet and the eyes are most likely swollen because she's getting ready to shed them, so no worries there I don't think, however it's always a good idea to take a good long look at them and compare them to the other legs/feet, so as AHBD asked, posting some photos of her other legs for comparison is a very good idea.

As far as her mouth goes, it's not "crust", but rather a scab. She's got an area on her mouth that was somehow injured, and the "crusty" stuff is actually a scab/skin regrowing. So it will take some time for it to heal, and applying the Raw, Unpasteurized Honey (not regular honey) to it once a day will keep it from getting infected and speed-up the healing process...That being said, don't keep scrubbing the scab off like you have been, as it needs to heal. I totally understand why you were scrubbing it off, thinking it was just some kind of crusty stuff or dead skin that needed to come off, so no worries there, just from now on stop scrubbing at it, apply the Raw, Unpasteurized Honey once a day, and it should heal-up just fine pretty quickly.
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Re: Swollen arm, Puffy eyes, Crusty mouth. Help!!

Postby HippieLizards » Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:22 am

Ok, Thank you! :) I have stopped scrubbing the mouth and I will see If I have any raw unpasteurized honey.

Another question: I think that Thor has a sperm plug. How should I treat it? I'm not 100% sure it is. It could be a hemipene, but it looks like a sperm plug to me. [Click image to enlarge]
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I thought It would be smart to confirm it's a sperm plug before I treat it. I Don't know how to treat sperm plugs but I do know how to treat prolapsed hemipenes. and I'm pretty sure they're treated differently. There's a bit of dirt on it because he was crawling around outside in the sun.

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Re: Swollen arm, Puffy eyes, Crusty mouth. Help!!

Postby CooperDragon » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:25 pm

I think that looks like a seminal plug too. Try a warm bath and then see if you can gently work it free.
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Re: Swollen arm, Puffy eyes, Crusty mouth. Help!!

Postby HippieLizards » Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:09 pm

Ok. I'll try that. Thanks!

EDIT: I Just gave Thor a bath I think I got it all out.
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Re: Swollen arm, Puffy eyes, Crusty mouth. Help!!

Postby HippieLizards » Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:55 pm

Here's the pictures of her limbs. Sorry if they're blurry. [Click image to enlarge]
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She has been very active and normal today.

Also, today Daisy dodged a bullet. She nearly ate a lightning bug that was flying near her. Thankfully I noticed it was a lightning bug and pulled her away before she grabbed it. She is fine right now. But she was lunging at it. :shock:

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Re: Swollen arm, Puffy eyes, Crusty mouth. Help!!

Postby Drache613 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:50 pm

Hello,

That's great you got the sperm plug out! LOL It happens.
Wow, I'm glad she wasn't able to ingest the fire fly, good grief!
How is she doing today? Keep us posted on her.

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Re: Swollen arm, Puffy eyes, Crusty mouth. Help!!

Postby AHBD » Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:06 am

Her legs look O.K., she's a chunky girl. They often look puffier when shedding, part optical illusion and partly the skin coming up + separating from the body.
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Re: Swollen arm, Puffy eyes, Crusty mouth. Help!!

Postby HippieLizards » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:19 am

Ok, Good. :) Both daisy and Cisco are doing good. Thor has been a bit more lethargic lately though. :( Could it be from the sperm plug? He did a huge poop yesterday. I Think the sperm plug had blocked up his bowels because he barely pooped at all when he had it. and Yes, Cisco is a bit chunky. So I'm cutting back on the supers.

Also Today is my one year anniversary with Cisco!! :blob5: :D She's my first dragon so it's also been one whole year with keeping reptiles! :blob5: I'll do a thread all about Cisco, Thor, Daisy, and Gizmo. Here's the link: viewtopic.php?f=49&t=241176

I'll do more updates about all of them on that thread soon.

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Re: Swollen arm, Puffy eyes, Crusty mouth. Help!!

Postby Drache613 » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:54 pm

Hello,

Poor Thor, he could have gotten plugged up from the sperm plug possibly! At least you
finally got it cleared for him. Hopefully he will perk up soon & have more energy.
That's great both Daisy & Cisco are doing well & eating. A full year with Cisco, that is
cool, congratulations! LOL
I will have to check out your thread soon, too.

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Re: Swollen arm, Puffy eyes, Crusty mouth. Help!!

Postby HippieLizards » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:05 pm

Yeah, Once I started noticing it in him (I could feel it in his vent) he would not poop at all, He would strain a lot but nothing would come out. Thankfully today he has been super good. He did a big poop and he was actually running like a normal beardie!! :blob5: :D His MBD has not slowed him down at all. and Gizmo has gained 3 grams! I know that's not a lot, but for a 3-4 month old gecko, That's great. :D

More updates coming soon!

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Re: Swollen arm, Puffy eyes, Crusty mouth. Help!!

Postby Drache613 » Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:07 pm

Hello,

Great to hear Thor finally got it all passed through, poor guy! At least his metabolic bone
issues are not keeping him down & he is in good spirits too. I hope he makes a full recovery
for you, bless him.
That is terrific Gizmo is doing well also & gaining weight. Geckos are so neat. :D
I posted on your other thread, too.

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