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Have ZooMed5.0 UVB help

Postby Balucared » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:50 am

Hi so my 4month old beardie has been under this 5.0 light for what I assume is all is life. I got him a month ago and was sold this. I now know it's bad. I also noticed slight twitches in his leg and his head shakes ever so slightly sometimes. Would it be okay to wait until January to get the new light as I'm broke and the holidays aren't helping???
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Re: Have ZooMed5.0 UVB help

Postby EllenD » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:21 am

Well, all I can tell you is what you already know, that the twitches/tremors and other symptoms she is already exhibiting are the start of a severe calcium deficiency, and possibly other nutritional deficiencies, and the start of MBD. I don't know if the Reptisun 5.0 you already have is a long 18" tube or a compact/coil bulb, but if it's a compact/coil bulb then she's gotten absolutely no UVB light ever. That's what's happening to her. Would I wait another second to go buy a proper, long UVB tube for her? No, I wouldn't, because at her age this is going to end up resulting in multiple problems for her, one of which could be permanent physical disabilities, like paralysis in her back legs, keeping her front legs folded underneath her, lumps in her spine, etc.

At 4 months old she is supposed to be doing most of her growing and developing right now, and she's not able to do any right now. She is not absorbing any nutrition or supplements you're giving her at all without any UVB light. So she could end up very stunted in growth, in addition to the MBD and physical disabilities.

I have a year and 4 month old male rescue dragon that I got at 7 months old from his first owner, and he had no UVB light at all until I got him. He's very small, only 15" long and will be for the rest of his life. His front arms are both always folded underneath him, he has a lump in his upper spine, his back legs are weak and he cannot poop unless he's in warm water. He has trouble walking on flat ground without falling. I have been able to reverse some things, like his appetite is great now, and he no longer flips onto his back while just walking on flat ground, and he no longer has tremors, but that's about all I could help with, and I got him under a very strong, 22" Reptisun 10.0 T5 High-Output UVB tube in a 24" T5-rated fixture for it (both of which you can buy on Amazon.com right now for around $50 shipped by the way, much cheaper than in a store, you'll pay more than that in any pet shop for the much weaker and shorter 18" Reptisun 10.0 T8 UVB tube and a fixture for it, so whatever you do I recommend that you order it online, Amazon.com seems to be the cheapest place for them that I've found). He's been under the 10.0 T5HO UVB tube for 14 hours a day since the day I got him, he's been in the correct temp ranges, fed high-calcium BSFL as his live staple insect every day, dusted in calcium powder and multivitamin powder, and though he's much better than he was, he's still forever stunted and disabled. I can't fix that, and it's frustrating. But it just goes to show how much damage a lack of proper and strong UVB light for at least 14 hours every day can and will do to a desert reptile, especially a Beardie.

I understand your financial issue, I can only give you the facts and what I would do, which is someone or multiple people wouldn't be getting Christmas presents so that I had $50 to order the proper T5 UVB tube and fixture for it on Amazon.com today. That's just me, and not meant to be pressure onto you or be judgmental or critical of you, just what I would do, only because I live with what a lack of proper UVB light does to these guys every day.
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Re: Have ZooMed5.0 UVB help

Postby Balucared » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:19 pm

Will order now please link what I need on Amazon. Yes it is a coil!! and I'm bout ready to call the pet store and go bananas.
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Re: Have ZooMed5.0 UVB help

Postby Balucared » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:25 pm

i just bought a 24 inch hood with a 22 inch 10.0 uvb was 156 dollars Canadian... any advice on what to do with the pet store that ripped me off?
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Re: Have ZooMed5.0 UVB help

Postby kingofnobbys » Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:56 am

Balucared wrote:Hi so my 4month old beardie has been under this 5.0 light for what I assume is all is life. I got him a month ago and was sold this. I now know it's bad. I also noticed slight twitches in his leg and his head shakes ever so slightly sometimes. Would it be okay to wait until January to get the new light as I'm broke and the holidays aren't helping???


The head shivers (that don't last long) are due to insufficient UVA over the last few months and is recoverable very easily.

I'd replace the 5% UVB light immediately with a 10% UVB T5HO tube or even better a 12% UVB T5HO tube , this will provide excellent levels of UVA & UVB provided it's mounted in a good reflector hood and UNDER the mesh lid and not further than 12 inches from the basking spot (aim for about 180 - 200 microW UVB / sq cm at the basking spot and not less than 100 microW UVB / sq cm elsewhere in the viv).
Photoperiod not less than 14 hrs per day, I recommend 16 hrs per day.

Exposure to very good levels of UVA will rectify the shivers , will take a few weeks , my Rex had similar issues when I forgot when the UV lights were due to be replaced and went a couple of months over.
CBDs: Puff (RIP 10Dec2015 @ 3.2 yrs old (aneurism)),Rex (RIP 16Mar2017 @ 4.6 yrs old,Toothless(sudden unexplained death RIP 26Nov2017) @ 2.1 yrs old.Peppa (born 15Nov2015).
EBTSs : George & Mildred (born 9/2010).
EWSs : Lucky (wild juvenile), cat attack rescue, fatal SI RIP 21Jul2010.Wriggles (rescued injured),thought she was a big lizard, 7-8 yrs old, died in her sleep, RIP 2Feb2016). Fluffy rescued 14Nov2017 about 4 yrs old .
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Re: Have ZooMed5.0 UVB help

Postby kingofnobbys » Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:02 am

Balucared wrote:i just bought a 24 inch hood with a 22 inch 10.0 uvb was 156 dollars Canadian... any advice on what to do with the pet store that ripped me off?


Demand your money back for dodgey harmful inadequate products - not a store credit.
CBDs: Puff (RIP 10Dec2015 @ 3.2 yrs old (aneurism)),Rex (RIP 16Mar2017 @ 4.6 yrs old,Toothless(sudden unexplained death RIP 26Nov2017) @ 2.1 yrs old.Peppa (born 15Nov2015).
EBTSs : George & Mildred (born 9/2010).
EWSs : Lucky (wild juvenile), cat attack rescue, fatal SI RIP 21Jul2010.Wriggles (rescued injured),thought she was a big lizard, 7-8 yrs old, died in her sleep, RIP 2Feb2016). Fluffy rescued 14Nov2017 about 4 yrs old .
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