Phoenix worms as main staple

smauggle · Nov 18, 2015

Is anyone using Phoenix worms over crickets as the main part of their dragons diet? Dubia roaches aren't available in Canada, so not really an option for me.
At $10/150 worms I'm wondering how fast a 10 week old beardie would fly through these things. I have no baseline as of yet - I pick up my little guy tomorrow night, will get some crickets and a few waxworms (bribes) from a local pet store until my bulk order next week (supercricket online is out of stock for Phoenix right now)
I keep hearing horror stories of crickets escaping their cages and finding their way into the walls, and if I can spend a few extra dollars for piece of mind, I'm ok with that
Any input or previous experience is appreciated, thanks guys!

CooperDragon · Nov 18, 2015

Phoenix Worms can be used as a staple but it will get quite expensive. During a growth spurt a dragon could put a big dent in a package of them at once (especially because they're so small). They are a good feeder to offer, so I'd keep them on hand as a supplementary feeder, but I'd use the crickets as a staple because they're much cheaper in bulk. I used to order about 1,000 per month and it worked well enough. I just kept them in a 20g tank with mesh top but a rubbermaid bin with a hole cut in the top and screened over for ventilation should work well.

smauggle · Nov 18, 2015

Thanks Coop!
Always appreciate your advice

smauggle · Nov 19, 2015

Wandered into petsmart last night for some crickets, got talking to an employee who is a new beardie owner as well. She very quietly told me about a local store that specialized only in feeders. I picked up 2-3 week crickets and waxworms for a fraction of petstore prices. Local mom and pop shop, and this is what they're feeding their crickets - I was super impressed
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CooperDragon · Nov 19, 2015

Sounds like a much better source. The pet store prices are nuts. As I recall Petco is at around 12-14c per! Online you can get them between 1-2c each.

Havel · Sep 26, 2016

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SpacialCoogs · Sep 27, 2016

Was it Herp Diner? I've just been introduced to it and I'm hoping to get over there to check them out. Scaley doesn't need worms right now but it would be nice to have more options than what Petsmart has, with the added benefit of being local.

smauggle · Sep 27, 2016

SpacialCoogs":330o9qmk said:
Was it Herp Diner? I've just been introduced to it and I'm hoping to get over there to check them out. Scaley doesn't need worms right now but it would be nice to have more options than what Petsmart has, with the added benefit of being local.

It was, I really can't say enough great things about that store, it's currently the only place Boris gets his live food from. The lady who owns the place is named Simone, and she had a huge wealth of knowledge on all things reptiles.

Highly recommend checking them out, hope it works out for you!

SweetB · Oct 2, 2016

If anyone is from Canada, http://www.thewormlady.ca is great to order Phoenix worms from, as well as other live feeders. Great price and service, and healthy feeders. Not certain if she ships outside of Canada though.

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