Silkworm Keeping

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Silkworm Keeping

Postby Draven88 » Fri May 22, 2020 10:00 am

So to preface I have a dubia colony, purchase BSFL(phonix worms), superworms for treats, and add the occasional hornworm (grow much to fast to keep many on hand.

Feeding six beardies ranging from 5 months to over 2 years of age, of course with different salad to live feeder ratios respective to age. With that said the dubia are easy with a good colony but I don't want to overdo them with the higher UA. While BSFL are great i find that i'm either running out or if i purchase more they are pupating and well... flies. And while i've seen many times they can still eat the flies my enclosure ventilation is open enough that flies could easily get out so not a great idea. And we have all seen that to may superworms can make a beardie hold out for them all the time which is not good.

For silkworms, I am finding so many places out of stock or very limited in what they have other than the option for eggs. So I turned to the idea of raising them much like a dubia colony altered for their care needs. I do have an incubator to maintain temps for hatching and the first few weeks and living space after (still with maintained temps) for growing out wont be any issue.

Is there anyone here with either breeding or at least raising from eggs? While I am more than willing to put in the effort and provide the right conditions, it will be a bit of a leap as at http://www.mulberryfarms.com/ where I am looking to buy from as reputable and recommended the lowest egg count is 2000 and with 10 lbs of powdered food (do not have a mulberry tree) and petri dishes for hatching it totals over $140 but the shipping is a killer at over $60 bringing the total over $200. Don't get me wrong I am not trying to be cheap with feeders here, but that could be put toward many feeders and I don't want it to be wasted because I was not properly prepared.

Anyone with any experience they can share would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Silkworm Keeping

Postby Claudiusx » Fri May 22, 2020 10:19 am

There are a couple of us here who have raised silks. I have never actually bred them (always just bought eggs) but i've wanted to, and might try the next time I'm into it.

I also have a full house at 5 dragons, so understand your issue ha.

Mulberryfarms is where i've always gotten my eggs too. but 2000 eggs is a lot of eggs to start off with.

Honestly, I'd start with 200 eggs if I were to go back to the very first time I tried
500 eggs is only like 3 or 4 bucks more, so I understand going with 500. But 500 is a bit much to handle IMO for the first time. Although with 6 dragons, maybe you can make 500 work.

But definitely don't go with 2000.

as far as the chow goes, I'd go with 2 or 3 of the half lb dry bags. Better to have more than enough has opposed to running out and your silks dying because you have no food. They basically need a constant unending supply of food.

Be warned though, cooking the chow will make your whole house stink. Especially your microwave. Every time I do it I swear the next time I will buy the premade chow. But my wallet says otherwise.

My dubias are in a closet with a heat mat. And because of that, the whole closet stays around 75-85. This allows me to not need to incubate the eggs at all. Just them being in the closet is good enough to get them to hatch and to keep them happy.

Just watch out for mold and too much moisture. It's not an exaggeration when people say that mold and too much moisture will wipe a whole colony out overnight.

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Re: Silkworm Keeping

Postby Claudiusx » Fri May 22, 2020 10:25 am

They also offer a prepaid shipping package.
http://www.mulberryfarms.com/-FONT-COLO ... -p315.html
$26 dollars for 200 eggs and half a lb of dry chow, shipping price included.
They have options for the 500 and 1000 egg quantities too, but you'd need to add more chow, which unfortunately I believe ships separately..

IME, 1/2lb dry chow will raise 500 silks to almost full grown. Even more so if you start feeding them off sooner.
So the 1/2lb dry should be enough to get all 200 full grown I believe.

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Re: Silkworm Keeping

Postby Draven88 » Fri May 22, 2020 10:41 am

Ok well I am apparently blind as I found the bulk first at 200 minimum and while that equals the 1000 non bulk price does not include the petri dishes to hatch ( i do want those as since i have the incubator I would prefer that extra layer of safety in maintaining temps.

As for the food i was going on their projections that 1 lb of powdered chow would only feed 100 to full cocoon size ( i would only try to take a small portion that far to attempt breeding as its my understanding 1 female on average lays about 600 eggs).

Thank you especially for the link for the shipping included packages. I was apparently lazy and just went straight to the silkworms thinking that would include all options but everything shipping included is in its own section.
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