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Re: ADV/ Brumation

PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:42 pm
by Iloverex
Sorry if I misunderstood you, or heard this from someone else, but I thought you said they are ok without supplements during brumation BECAUSE of the fact their bodies shut down? If that's not the case, then does that mean dragons that only "semi brumate" need supplements?

Re: ADV/ Brumation

PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:11 am
by AHBD
If they are awake + eating, you will supplement the food, and if they're sleeping they are not taking in anything.

Re: ADV/ Brumation

PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 4:20 pm
by Iloverex
Hey AHBD, so I got a question regarding brumation (Or I guess "semi - brumation") poops. On the 8th I posted that RJ ate several roaches, he did so on the 9th as well, not as many though. And he's been doing his disappearing trick since (except for me taking him out once for water and weight check). He drank some water and has added 12 grams with his two days of snacks. I'm just wondering what's to be expected of the poop process given the circumstances. Today is the 16th and no poop yet. Though I'm sure his metabolism is slowed to nearly a stand still. This is really all he's eaten since he started sleeping a lot except for nibbling a few veggies on occasion. I kinda feel like he would have liked a "real brumation." Also he seemed pretty pale when I took him out for a few mins today. But I'm guessing that's normal being hidden away from direct light? I think I mentioned, I have his lights on from 8am-6pm, off earlier (anywhere from 3-4pm) if his really zonked out. Knowing what I know now, given he had a clean fecal from the start, and as much as he's slept,I think I would have just shut his lights right down. :( I guess that's just part of the experience huh?

Re: ADV/ Brumation

PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 4:23 pm
by AHBD
He probably would have been fine but this behavior now is not harmful at all. I would hold off on solids for a while now, just offer baby food squash, sweet potato, prunes with a few drops of raw honey and/or olive oil. He will eventually go. :)

Re: ADV/ Brumation

PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 4:38 pm
by Iloverex
Ya I definitely haven't been or plan to feed him more, especially without poop. I guess it just seemed like he "came out" those couple days cuz he "wanted something." Ya I'll try some of that next time he's out, or in a coupe days if he doesn't. Is there a point where I should be concerned?

Re: ADV/ Brumation

PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:14 pm
by AHBD
He'll be O.K, it may take another week or so but possibly sooner.

Re: ADV/ Brumation

PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:44 pm
by Iloverex
Hey bud, just wanted to update you. Today is two weeks since the first bunch of roaches RJ ate (he ate some on the 8th and 9th) and he's still not pooped. I will try a bath tomorrow, but he's usually not very good about staying in. I gave him some prunes w/2 drops of vegetable oil a couple days after you suggested I try that (I think it was the 17th or 18th). And I gave him a little more prunes yesterday.

Re: ADV/ Brumation

PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:50 pm
by AHBD
It's O.K, that's pretty typical. Offer some more of the natural laxatives + be patient.....they always go, it's just much longer periods when they are going through this phase.

Re: ADV/ Brumation

PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:18 pm
by Iloverex
Ok thanks, just wanted to confirm

Re: ADV/ Brumation

PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:49 pm
by Iloverex
Sorry, don't mean to be repetitive, but is three weeks still ok? Gave him a short bath (just enough water to touch his tummy) and some pumpkin yesterday

Re: ADV/ Brumation

PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:55 pm
by AHBD
Yes, it's O.K. Is he out + active now or still mostly sleeping ?

Re: ADV/ Brumation

PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:15 am
by Iloverex
Still mostly sleeping

Re: ADV/ Brumation

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:09 pm
by Iloverex
One month and no poop :( two days ago a gave a 15 min bath at 95 ยบ with tummy rubs, a small amount of pumpkin 2 hrs prior, he didn't want much

Re: ADV/ Brumation

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:13 pm
by AHBD
It's O.K, mine have done the same thing over the years, nothing bad happened + no one got sick.

Re: ADV/ Brumation

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:20 pm
by Iloverex
Even during a "semi - brumation?"