Killing adenovirus?

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Killing adenovirus?

Postby Gail » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:50 am

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What is a good solution for killing adeno on hard surfaces?
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Re: Killing adenovirus?

Postby claudiusx » Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:56 pm

Steam and/or bleach. Either will work.

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Re: Killing adenovirus?

Postby pscaulkins » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:17 pm

Steam does not kill adeno. There has been no studies on what does kill it. It can live on surfaces for quite some time.
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Re: Killing adenovirus?

Postby Drache613 » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:54 pm

Hello,

Steaming up to 140F will kill Adeno as well as bleach, too.
The Reptile Medicine & Surgery mentions steaming at those temperatures to kill Adeno.
It should be used for 15 or so minutes to kill the spores.

It just is not as conventional a method as bleach since most people do not have a steamer.

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Re: Killing adenovirus?

Postby pscaulkins » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:39 pm

Tracie, not all steamers get that hot. Therefore, unless they check the temps they may not be killing it.
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Re: Killing adenovirus?

Postby claudiusx » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:53 pm

If the steamer can't get up to 140+ its not really a steamer seeing as steam isn't even created unless temperatures in excess of 210 degrees are achieved.

Not very many things, can withstand temperatures of that range.

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Re: Killing adenovirus?

Postby pscaulkins » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:17 pm

The steamers at Walmart make steam but it does not burn your hand, therefore, would not be hot enough to kill anything. The steam has to be very hot. I worry about people running out to buy a steamer and assuming it will kill adeno when in fact it may not. I know for a fact the steamers that Walmart sells do this as I have returned more then I can remember and I don't care if mine kills adeno or not.
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Re: Killing adenovirus?

Postby Drache613 » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:51 pm

Hello,

I am aware of that Sandy.
It seems that everything on Adeno that I cover you question. Why is that? I refer to the lab for questions on my site & if I don't know I do ask the lab or I refer them to the lab, personally. If you have a problem with my methods or education, let me know. I feel that I do my best to cover the vast extent of this issue & continue to strive to learn more.
Everything I research, I do so through the lab or other medical books. It is not rocket science, but common sense, too.
I never claim to know everything but if I don't know, I do speak to the lab about it so I can help as much as possible.
I agree with Brandon, if the steamer doesn't get to those temperatures, then it wasn't a very good one.


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Re: Killing adenovirus?

Postby pscaulkins » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:33 pm

I apologize if I questioned your authority on the matter, however, I have yet to see the formal documents that come with a signature. So if you have any research, please share it. I was only concerned about newbies thinking if there is steam, it will do the job. I actually have a hand held $60 one that makes lots of steam but doesn't warm the glass, therefore, doesn't kill anything.
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Re: Killing adenovirus?

Postby Drache613 » Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:06 am

Hello,

It is common knowledge & in the Reptile Medicine & Surgery book. The lab I work through has verified it.
It is not the questioning, it is the previous questions regarding the fecal & whether it was accurate. It is a completely different test than the older, fecal EM but you were not aware of it but thought I was wrong or using inaccurate data. I was just taken back when you thought I was giving wrong information without asking first.

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Re: Killing adenovirus?

Postby pscaulkins » Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:29 pm

Drache613 wrote:Hello,

It is common knowledge & in the Reptile Medicine & Surgery book. The lab I work through has verified it.
It is not the questioning, it is the previous questions regarding the fecal & whether it was accurate. It is a completely different test than the older, fecal EM but you were not aware of it but thought I was wrong or using inaccurate data. I was just taken back when you thought I was giving wrong information without asking first.

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This is way off topic, you should have pm'd me this question. I will be more then happy to explain it to you but I will not on this thread. And, I honestly don't think you want me to.
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Re: Killing adenovirus?

Postby Drache613 » Mon Jul 15, 2013 1:05 am

Hello,

I don't have any questions on anything. I think the OP knows how to kill adeno now, with all of the advice she has received.
There is no reason to be hateful anyway. I thought we were supposed to be helping each other out on research for the dragons' sake, not arguing. I am too weary from being ridiculed & don't really need the stress from years of being belittled. I don't feel that I am doing anything wrong as the dragons are the most important thing here to me.
We have hijacked it enough on this thread.
Gail & I have already spoken on this subject with regards to Adeno.


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