Treat pinworms/coccidia?

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Treat pinworms/coccidia?

Postby Erimis » Tue Nov 08, 2011 10:40 am

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Hi ! I've had my dragon, Humperdinck, for a week today. He is 9 weeks old. He seems to be doing well, most days he eats great. Stools are usually normal, twice the stool portion appears to be covered in mucus.
I am a vet tech- for dogs and cats! I have no medical experience with reptiles. I did a float on him yesterday, saw two pinworm eggs and 3+ coccidia. Since I've only had him a week should I bother treating? Should I repeat a fecal in 2 weeks and see if the numbers have reduced?
We would treat a dog if it had even one egg on a slide so it makes me nervous not to treat, but he's not symptomatic. Reading through posts it seems maybe I should just wait-maybe he its just stress?
Just need some reassurance, don't want to screw up on my first beardie!
Thanks, Missi
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1.1 Rhodesian ridgebacks Rio and Eula Bea 2.0 Boxers "Chewy & Apollo"
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Re: Treat pinworms/coccidia?

Postby Erimis » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:08 am

I don't know if it matters but he has been in shed since I got him. He just finished yesterday. The few times he didn't eat with gusto I chalked up to shedding.
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0.3 Cherryhead torts Atari, Sega & Roku
Leos: Fezzik,Leeloo,Vanellope,Vezzini,Janeway,Paris,Harry,Cheetah,Tiberius & Spock
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Re: Treat pinworms/coccidia?

Postby BeardedAaliyah » Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:41 am

We waited with our Beardie, and she got severely worse. It took her about the same time to get better. Reptiles usually show symptoms after it gets pretty bad. They're pretty good at hiding illness. The sooner you treat your Beardie, the sooner your Beardie will get better.

Aaliyah lost a lot of weight, and had to be force fed, which was stressful for her and us.
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Re: Treat pinworms/coccidia?

Postby kjinxx2 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:05 pm

I also waited for mine to show symptoms and he went off feed for about a week because of it. Don't wait (for treating the pinworms), treatment is really cheap and has very little effects on the positive flora. Coccidia (from what I've read) is okay at low levels and should reduce with the reduction of pinworms.
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Re: Treat pinworms/coccidia?

Postby Erimis » Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:57 pm

I've ordered Reptaid. Hope that helps. Still eating like a pig!
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1.1 Rhodesian ridgebacks Rio and Eula Bea 2.0 Boxers "Chewy & Apollo"
1.1 Greencheeked conures Gandalf & Goldberry
2.4 Bearded dragons Humperdinck, Westley, Buttercup, Valor, Easterly, Amberly
0.3 Cherryhead torts Atari, Sega & Roku
Leos: Fezzik,Leeloo,Vanellope,Vezzini,Janeway,Paris,Harry,Cheetah,Tiberius & Spock
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Re: Treat pinworms/coccidia?

Postby kjinxx2 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:38 pm

I'm not sure that reptaid works as a dewormer, most of us use Panacur to get rid of pinworms, you can buy a 3 week treatment here: http://www.bug-de-lite.com/ for very cheap.
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Re: Treat pinworms/coccidia?

Postby jewl495 » Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:55 am

Honestly I would wait to treat because you can keep a close eye on things. It's normal for dragons to have some parasites. Order some parazap and some acidophilusz+ and feed some pumpkin everyday. It's also normal for the levels to go up a bit when You first get a dragon due to the higher stress levels.
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Re: Treat pinworms/coccidia?

Postby prone2 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 5:22 pm

This is really helping me out. Our newest boy just got labeled as haveing coccidia today! We have had him 13 days, and he has been feeding well and color really comming back. However he has had very bad poops! I when I say bad it's BAD.. So we took a sample to the vet (not the best reptile vet, be she is close by), she sent off the sample to the lab and now we have coccidia! So we are starting the treatments, but I was interested in why to give him pumkin, every day?
He has been isolated from the other 5 BD, so we are all good on that front. Any help or ideas would be great.
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Re: Treat pinworms/coccidia?

Postby jewl495 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:04 pm

Hello Scott I should have been more clear coccidia should be treated if you have high levels. Does your dragon have any other parasites? The original poster has access to a microscope and can keep a close eye on things. I suggested pumpkin for the pinworms. The extra fiber helps flush the pinworms out of the system. The parazap also helps flush the parasites out of the system usually by making the dragon poo more often. Often times when the pinworm levels go down the coccidia levels will come down to acceptable levels.

What meds did your vet give you? What were the coccidia counts? You should pick up a probiotic to give along with the meds. If you post your meds, doseage amounts, and weight of your dragon in a separate post others who are more qualified can help you out!

Hope this info helped a little
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Re: Treat pinworms/coccidia?

Postby prone2 » Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:18 pm

Jewl,
Thanks for the pumpkin update, I was ready to cut up the Mrs. Thanksgiving pumpkin! She is out picking up the probiotic right now. I will pick up the Meds in the morning with the lab report from the vet and will post it then. Btw he is 15" 252gr. I also am stealing my sisters steam cleaner for a few weeks to clean everything. Thanks again.
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Re: Treat pinworms/coccidia?

Postby Erimis » Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:22 pm

Hi guys, planning on rechecking poop tomorrow. Haven't done anything yet, trying to let him settle in. Just got the reptaid to use if needed. He is still doing fine, eats good, poops are pretty good. A few have been extra watery but wouldn't call it diarrhea, guessing its cause he is eating more salad. He isn't eating the vegetables though, just the greens.
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1.1 Rhodesian ridgebacks Rio and Eula Bea 2.0 Boxers "Chewy & Apollo"
1.1 Greencheeked conures Gandalf & Goldberry
2.4 Bearded dragons Humperdinck, Westley, Buttercup, Valor, Easterly, Amberly
0.3 Cherryhead torts Atari, Sega & Roku
Leos: Fezzik,Leeloo,Vanellope,Vezzini,Janeway,Paris,Harry,Cheetah,Tiberius & Spock
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Re: Treat pinworms/coccidia?

Postby jewl495 » Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:51 am

MissI,
I'm curious to see how your dragon is doing. Just to let you know we just treated for coccidia with Ponazuril and it wiped it out with hardly any side effects. However we still have a very small count of pinworms still that the vet said was normal and she doesn't want to treat. It's ok to have low numbers as long as your dragon isn't affected by them.
BTW I just noticed that you have a Ridgeback, how old? We have two, and I absolutely love them, they are the best dogs ever! I can't imagine not ever owning one.
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Re: Treat pinworms/coccidia?

Postby Erimis » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:16 pm

Update- poop still the same. Humperdinck still has normal poops but I guess I will try the Reptaid and see if that helps. I am kinda worried that trying to syringe it into his mouth might stress him out though. He is slightly skittish still. The dubia he eats are very small - I can't imagine injecting the Reptaid into them!

Julie- I have 2 ridgebacks a 5y/o male and a 9month female. I absolutely love them! they are polar opposites though. I am glad we got our male first, he is so calm and easy going. Bea is insane! She is always on the go, looking for trouble, loud and just obnoxious! But she is super sweet, an excellent snuggler and is just so stinking cute! I cannot resist her! I just hope she calms down soon
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1.1 Rhodesian ridgebacks Rio and Eula Bea 2.0 Boxers "Chewy & Apollo"
1.1 Greencheeked conures Gandalf & Goldberry
2.4 Bearded dragons Humperdinck, Westley, Buttercup, Valor, Easterly, Amberly
0.3 Cherryhead torts Atari, Sega & Roku
Leos: Fezzik,Leeloo,Vanellope,Vezzini,Janeway,Paris,Harry,Cheetah,Tiberius & Spock
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Re: Treat pinworms/coccidia?

Postby Erimis » Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:40 pm

Another update- have been trying to do reptaid. He won't take it from syringe, tried putting it on a dubia, had to go get crickets to inject. So he really hasn't had a good go at the reptaid but poop has been looser and smells. His fecal today shows coccidia worse, didn't see any pinworms. Decided to start Albon to prevent things getting worse. Thx
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1.1 Rhodesian ridgebacks Rio and Eula Bea 2.0 Boxers "Chewy & Apollo"
1.1 Greencheeked conures Gandalf & Goldberry
2.4 Bearded dragons Humperdinck, Westley, Buttercup, Valor, Easterly, Amberly
0.3 Cherryhead torts Atari, Sega & Roku
Leos: Fezzik,Leeloo,Vanellope,Vezzini,Janeway,Paris,Harry,Cheetah,Tiberius & Spock
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Re: Treat pinworms/coccidia?

Postby jewl495 » Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:10 pm

Remember to give a probiotic a long with the Albion and extra fluids as well. So your vet doesn't use ponazuril? Its a better option than albon.
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