Which age is too young for brumation

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Which age is too young for brumation

Postby maggie2311 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:35 am

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My fairly new baby beardie is about 2-3 months old and I think she might be brumating. She's not doing anything alarming to get me worried, she's eating regularly, pooping regularly the only thing that's changed is the fact that she's been sleeping a lot more compared to how she used to the past 2 weeks. so I was meaning to ask is she brumating or could her sleeping schedules have changed OR should I get worried
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Re: Which age is too young for brumation

Postby EllenD » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:46 am

Hi, welcome to the forum, and congrats on your new baby!

No, she's definitely not brumating. Dragons don't typically go into any type of brumation until they are well over a year old, sometimes it can happen a few months earlier than a year, but this is very rare, and will never happen when they are babies or young juveniles at all.

If there are any issues with her being lethargic and sleeping a lot, this is usually due to inadequate UVB lighting, having the UVB tube set up too far away from their basking spot, having the UVb tube obstructed by a mesh lid, improper temperature zones, or a combination of all of these. So it's best to try to get your husbandry issues worked out now, before they start causing any nutritional deficiencies in her....Can you post some photos of both her and her entire enclosure, as well as her lighting set-up?

Also, what UVB light do you have, what brand/model/wattage and/or strength, and what type (long tube, compact, or coil bulb) of UVB light do you have?
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Re: Which age is too young for brumation

Postby maggie2311 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:59 am

This is Gucci being sassy:
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This is her enclosure (it's already night where I am and I just took the pic):
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This is her basking lamp:
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Re: Which age is too young for brumation

Postby VenusAndSaturn » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:02 pm

Does she not have uvb? If so thats the problem.

Also that purple/blue/black night time light is probably not the best. If its too cold at night you need a ceramic heater not something that produces light.
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Re: Which age is too young for brumation

Postby maggie2311 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:45 pm

VenusAndSaturn wrote:Does she not have uvb? If so thats the problem.

Also that purple/blue/black night time light is probably not the best. If its too cold at night you need a ceramic heater not something that produces light.

We have a heating system at my house so it's not really that cold at nights during winter. Also I live in a country where the temperatures in Summer are daily at 40 degrees Celsius.
The woman at the pet shop told me that the basking lamp is also a uvb lamp BUT it doesn't say so on the box, so I don't know what to assume.
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Re: Which age is too young for brumation

Postby VenusAndSaturn » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:16 pm

Thats completely wrong, the heat lamp is just a heat lamp. Unless it says MVB (which is only 100-150 watts from what ive seen) or it produces actual uvb and it states that on the box. Which that heat lamp is just a regular heat lamp, i usually buy those to heat up my juveniles enclosure along side her tube light.

Dont ever trust petstores, im pretty sure they want to kill every animal in the world or something with the crap they tell customers.

Depending on the enclosures size, a 22" reptisun t5 HO 10.0 uvb tube light should work and a 24" fixture thats reflective. You can get one on amazon for a cheap price depending on where you are. At the moment your beardie has been receiving 0 uvb since you've had her so she may start to develop MBD if she doesnt get uvb soon.

Also if its warm inside the house turn off that "night time" bulb as its completely useless.
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Re: Which age is too young for brumation

Postby maggie2311 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:20 pm

Ok thanks a lot
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Re: Which age is too young for brumation

Postby PodunkKhaleesi » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:14 pm

Hey there. You’ll need to get a Reptisun 10.0 UVB tube ASAP. Because she’s currently not getting any adequate UV light (coil UV lights are weak and essentially worthless), her metabolism has been compromised. Additionally, proper UV lighting has a dramatic effect on a beardie’s energy levels, so once you get a Reptisun (or an Arcadia) UV tube installed you should notice an immediate difference in her behavior (less napping, more basking, perkier).
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Re: Which age is too young for brumation

Postby kingofnobbys » Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:50 am

A bearded dragon's first winter is too soon.

As a matter of fact, it is not necessary for a bearded dragon to brumate at all.
Brumation is only a response to colder conditions and a lack of food in their natural range during the long DRY SEASON that happens between May and September.

None of my pet skinks or dragons have ever brumated. I keep the photoperiod long (16hr) , the temperatures up, and keep the food coming. None have ever shown any desire to go down for a very long nap.
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