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What is an average size for a 4-6 month old beardie? PICS

Postby Roja » Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:38 pm

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I apologize in advance for the length.

So here's the deal. I don't know how old Roja is for sure. We got her in late August from someone and...

here.. just read this:
http://www.beardeddragon.org/bjive/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=133065&hilit=roja <--pics

I posted this last month:
http://www.beardeddragon.org/bjive/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=136554&start=0&hilit=roja <--pics

Aaaand I introduced us here:
http://www.beardeddragon.org/bjive/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=136825&start=0&hilit=roja <-- yep.. pics too.
but didn't get much response. :(

Today she is here:

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I measured her today in the sink and she is just about 11 inches, but has an extraordinarily long tail.. her body is still tiny to me.

Setup:


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40 gallon breeder
50 watt Zoo Med Nocturnal Infrared Heat Lamp (use 24 hrs)
50 watt "All Living Things" neodymium Basking Bulb with UVA (12 hrs p/day)
100 watt "All Living Things" neodymium Basking Bulb with UVA (12 hrs p/day)
Reptisun 10.0 (12 hrs p/day) (I have a 24" which I bought when I had her in the 10 gall tank. She's in a 40 now and I need to upgrade to a 36" bulb but haven't done it yet. She never spends time on the cool side where the reptisun isn't over, so I know she is getting all her reptisun)

Temps taken with digital probes:
Basking log 105 degrees
Mid temp 95 degrees
Cool side 79 degrees
Night temp 68-72

*she spends most of her time up high on the climber "tree" under the reptisun and partially the 100 watt basking bulb. This is the area that is about 90-95 degrees. After she eats she always climbs up on the bark log and hangs out for a while then up onto the tree she goes. She only goes to the cooler side to eat (its where I keep her veggie bowl so it will wilt slower). <-- refer to photo above to see what I mean.

substrate:
eco-carpet reptile carpet

food:
• red kale, green kale, chard, cabbage, mustard greens misted with water daily (she rarely eats it except on accident when going for bugs)
• crickets daily (medium sized up to 30-40 per day dusted with calcium and vitamins)
• waxworms (only just bought some to give her 3 with her crickets twice a day to try and fatten her up)
• phoenix worms (couple weeks ago I bought almost $40 worth (400) and they were gone in less than 2 weeks. too expensive.. I'm going to stick with crickets.)

I spray her twice a day with water, she always looks a little dehydrated to me -- just the skin behind her shoulders when she twists her body always looks a bit wrinkled. She never licks the water off her nose and when I bathe her (4-5 times a week) she never seems to drink in there either. She HATES baths. Its luke-warm, like how I bathed my young children when they were little. Not too warm, not too cold. But she always blackbeards and gets all leopard-printed underneath. She tries to run out of the sink and will keep running even tho she just slides down. But I make her do it because she needs some moisture.

Here.. this is what I mean by looking dehydrated:
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You see the wrinkles behind her front legs? does that look like dehydration? Should I do more than 5 baths and twice daily sprays?

Maybe I'm just being a paranoid mommy... but she seems SO small for her age. The youngest she could be (and this is if they sold her at 3 weeks old) is 4 months old and the oldest would be 6 months. The problem is I will never be able to know how old she was when she was bought.. or WHEN she was bought. All I know is it was sometime in the middle to the of July and I got her in the middle of August. I assumed she was 6-8 weeks when I got her on Aug 20th.. which would make her about 15-16 weeks old now.

I'm just so inexperienced.. this site is the only knowledge I have to gauge if I'm being an okay parent.

Any thoughts?

Oh I forgot.. She has shed about 4 times in the past 6 weeks. The last being right now. I went in to check on her a few mins ago and her entire back was coming off in one piece. Guess that bath this morning brought it on. She had no sign on shed earlier today.
See?
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Btw... when I went in to peek on her she was EATING the entire piece of skin that had come off her face. Is that normal?? This is the pic I took right after she finished swallowing the huge piece.
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now THAT is a stink eye!

Okay... enough of the book. :)

Thoughts? Am I doing okay? Is SHE doing okay?

btw.2.. I'm going to take her to the vet next week for a checkup. Ive never taken her before. I want to see what her parasite count is like.
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Re: What is an average size for a 4-6 month old beardie? PICS

Postby gimmexthexloot » Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:42 pm

I would turn off the red light. Unlike most reptiles bearded dragons can see it and it diaturbs their sleep.
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Postby Roja » Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:46 pm

gimmexthexloot wrote:I would turn off the red light. Unlike most reptiles bearded dragons can see it and it diaturbs their sleep.


Yeah I read that earlier this week.. if you look where it is, its on the far left side of the tank to the back. She always sleeps on the branch up high facing away from it and seems to sleep deeply - as in - when I check on her she is always knocked out, legs strait behind her, eyes closed.

Im in Montana.. its like 8 degrees here right now. I have to leave something on or she would be at about 55 degrees. But when I get the new longer reptisun I'll get a black light.. I read that is better?
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Postby gimmexthexloot » Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:49 pm

I believe it is. I prefer the ceramic heat emitters tho
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Postby gimmexthexloot » Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:49 pm

I believe it is. I prefer the ceramic heat emitters tho
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Postby midmichicer » Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:32 am

I got Autumn in August from Petco, she was 5" and now is almost 18".
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Re: What is an average size for a 4-6 month old beardie? PICS

Postby Livey » Fri Nov 26, 2010 2:16 am

She looks fine to me, they all grow completely different some take longer others will be huge...
She is a very pretty girl!
lovin the shedding pictures! :D

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Postby BeardieGrandma » Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:00 am

They all grow at different rates.
She looks good!
Eating their own skin is normal, Joga does it too.

Joga is 5.5 mos old and she's about 13" long.
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Postby Roja » Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:36 am

Livey wrote:She looks fine to me, they all grow completely different some take longer others will be huge...
She is a very pretty girl!
lovin the shedding pictures! :D

Olivia x


Is there a way to tell what color morph she is just by looking? All I was able to gather was "red bearded dragon" and thats it.
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Postby Roja » Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:37 am

BeardieGrandma wrote:They all grow at different rates.
She looks good!
Eating their own skin is normal, Joga does it too.


Good to know.. thanks!
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Postby jeritta » Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:47 am

they all grow at different rates and speeds just like people. She will have a growth spurt when she is ready. As long as she is eating, shedding and pooping on a good schedule and staying hydrated I wouldn't worry too much. I have 4 month old that is very tiny. My 2 month old is almost as big as she is. She is healthy just a slow grower. Just this week she finally started a spurt. So just be patient and watch. She'll be okay.
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Re: What is an average size for a 4-6 month old beardie? PICS

Postby Roja » Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:18 pm

jeritta wrote:they all grow at different rates and speeds just like people. She will have a growth spurt when she is ready. As long as she is eating, shedding and pooping on a good schedule and staying hydrated I wouldn't worry too much. I have 4 month old that is very tiny. My 2 month old is almost as big as she is. She is healthy just a slow grower. Just this week she finally started a spurt. So just be patient and watch. She'll be okay.


Thank you. :)

Does my set up and schedule sound okay to you?
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Postby alkemisten3 » Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:54 pm

First of all, great post. Rather more info than (like 90% of threads), not enough.
She looks good, just like mine basically (see here: viewtopic.php?f=34&t=136425 scroll down)
and mine is something like your age. Mine is around 12 inch and now finally growing steadily, around 155 G heavy. Your beardie looks fine, and setup is very good. Here in Malta, u know temps are really like Florida I would presume to give u a hint, so warm and humid... difficult in another way to keep levels good. Anyway, ceramic heat emitter would be a better idea. Mine is also having these exact wrinkles when she twist, I guess it is normal. Your beardies eyes does not look like sunken though, and she seems pretty happy. I do not know, but the fact that she does not spend any time in the cool area might be because there is very little UVB and/or that temps are a little too low perhaps. Mine does not spend much time there at all either though, at least not when I am looking. Sneaky sneaky...
Shedding, white poop (urates) = quite hydrated and growing. Would not be too worried at all. Just keep a log/track and make sure she is not loosing weight, and it should be all fine. :P Cute one!
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Re: What is an average size for a 4-6 month old beardie? PICS

Postby Roja » Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:46 pm

Thank you! :) Its really good to see photos of yours.. they are very similar in size. :)

Thanks for your comments! (I am going to invest in a ceramic)

alkemisten3 wrote:First of all, great post. Rather more info than (like 90% of threads), not enough.
She looks good, just like mine basically (see here: viewtopic.php?f=34&t=136425 scroll down)
and mine is something like your age. Mine is around 12 inch and now finally growing steadily, around 155 G heavy. Your beardie looks fine, and setup is very good. Here in Malta, u know temps are really like Florida I would presume to give u a hint, so warm and humid... difficult in another way to keep levels good. Anyway, ceramic heat emitter would be a better idea. Mine is also having these exact wrinkles when she twist, I guess it is normal. Your beardies eyes does not look like sunken though, and she seems pretty happy. I do not know, but the fact that she does not spend any time in the cool area might be because there is very little UVB and/or that temps are a little too low perhaps. Mine does not spend much time there at all either though, at least not when I am looking. Sneaky sneaky...
Shedding, white poop (urates) = quite hydrated and growing. Would not be too worried at all. Just keep a log/track and make sure she is not loosing weight, and it should be all fine. :P Cute one!
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