A bearded dragon from Santa Claus: Wilbur lets me hold him!

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Re: A bearded dragon from Santa Claus: THEY'RE HERE NOW WHAT

Postby opaquelace » Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:26 pm

Question. I noticed both of the baby dragons are under shed right now. Should I worry about bathing them? And what should the temp be for a baby?
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Re: A bearded dragon from Santa Claus: THEY'RE HERE NOW WHAT

Postby KarrieRee » Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:42 pm

I would not bathe them yet -- too much stress- I would mist them sitting under their basking bulbs--- a couple times a day-- water should be warm - their temps should be around 105-110--
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Re: A bearded dragon from Santa Claus: THEY'RE HERE NOW WHAT

Postby opaquelace » Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:46 pm

KarrieRee wrote:I would not bathe them yet -- too much stress- I would mist them sitting under their basking bulbs--- a couple times a day-- water should be warm - their temps should be around 105-110--
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Ok perfect. CandyCane has opened up and is munching on roaches whenever I offer them. Elliot is at the top of the cork in the enclosure and seemed more stressed when I tried to offer him a roach on a tong so I backed out. I will prob try putting him in a Tupperware tomorrow with some dusted roaches and let him eat by himself. He’s not under the basking light is that ok? I’m assuming if he needed to be under it he would be? CandyCane is front and center under the basking light.
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Re: A bearded dragon from Santa Claus: THEY'RE HERE NOW WHAT

Postby KarrieRee » Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:56 pm

Keep an eye on him-- are your basking and UVB next to one another? Post a pic of their tanks now I was looking for one the way you have it set up now--
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Re: A bearded dragon from Santa Claus: THEY'RE HERE NOW WHAT

Postby opaquelace » Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:12 pm

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This is Elliot just hanging out. He’s been there for a while just hanging out. It’s about 85 where he is since it’s on the cool side. To the right is the basking bulb and the uvb is to the center and right. I might have to get a higher basking spot but it’s hard to say. In some spots it is 105-108 on the thicker log and gets cooler more toward the hammock.

Edited to add that he has eaten a roach. I just don’t want to stress him out further by being constantly in his space.
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Re: A bearded dragon from Santa Claus: THEY'RE HERE NOW WHAT

Postby ComicBookMama » Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:20 pm

I love the names your kids have picked out - particularly Elliott, since I've got a Disney dragon name, too! They're both completely adorable! :D

Take it slow and easy the first few days... I'd keep handling to a minimum while they settle in, but hand feeding (or tweezers feeding) is a good plan, along with regular tank cleanup and putting food in, that sort of thing. Rushing into holding them could scare them, so focus on things that show them that hands are just part of the environment and bring Good Things to Dragons!

And definitely keep us posted!
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Re: A bearded dragon from Santa Claus: THEY'RE HERE NOW WHAT

Postby opaquelace » Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:35 pm

ComicBookMama wrote:I love the names your kids have picked out - particularly Elliott, since I've got a Disney dragon name, too! They're both completely adorable! :D

Take it slow and easy the first few days... I'd keep handling to a minimum while they settle in, but hand feeding (or tweezers feeding) is a good plan, along with regular tank cleanup and putting food in, that sort of thing. Rushing into holding them could scare them, so focus on things that show them that hands are just part of the environment and bring Good Things to Dragons!

And definitely keep us posted!

Thanks I’ve definitely had to explain to my kids that we can’t handle them right away (which led to tears in one and understanding in the other lol). I’ve been using the tweezers mostly because the dubias gross me out lol. I’ll keep trying tomorrow and fix their salad in the am with some dubias and see if Elliot comes down to eat.
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Re: A bearded dragon from Santa Claus: THEY'RE HERE NOW WHAT

Postby KarrieRee » Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:42 pm

Getting some BSFL to add to the top of the salads will get them interested in eating their greens you can order from here and it is another great staple feeder -- https://symtonbsf.com/ order large - these do not need to be dusted w/ calcium and feed as many as you want- but I would put them on top of the salads first thing in the morning - let them see you add them it will entice them to their bowls - you can also use butter worms as well or 1-3 super worms medium size - they are great attention getters --- you want them eating their salads now --- I would feed the dubias like an hr or hr and half later - and you can add them to those bowls as well -
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Re: A bearded dragon from Santa Claus: THEY'RE HERE NOW WHAT

Postby opaquelace » Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:01 pm

KarrieRee wrote:Getting some BSFL to add to the top of the salads will get them interested in eating their greens you can order from here and it is another great staple feeder -- https://symtonbsf.com/ order large - these do not need to be dusted w/ calcium and feed as many as you want- but I would put them on top of the salads first thing in the morning - let them see you add them it will entice them to their bowls - you can also use butter worms as well or 1-3 super worms medium size - they are great attention getters --- you want them eating their salads now --- I would feed the dubias like an hr or hr and half later - and you can add them to those bowls as well -
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Ordering now. The larges aren't too...large? They definitely seem to notice the squirming from farther away than I expected lol. I dropped a roach and couldn't find it and sure enough CandyCane found it a few minutes later. I could see when she noticed it too her head tilted and she went for it. I have turnip greens and carrots to grate for salads tomorrow morning, and tomorrow the roaches will have to do temporarily until the BSFL comes in.
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Re: A bearded dragon from Santa Claus: THEY'RE HERE NOW WHAT

Postby KarrieRee » Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:28 pm

the BSFL will be fine --- I fed Blaze the large and he was really tiny when I got him -- its the super worms but I managed to find small ones and he could eat those for a few weeks then he graduated to mediums - but you can order worms for them as well - I give my two a variety of them well Blaze Hiccup is so finicky its ridiculous --- butter worms are good they are good and soft--- horn worms you haft to get small if you can - lately dubiaroaches has been sending me little ones -- so I feed some to Blaze and let some grow out bigger for Hiccup -- oh also you can get silk worms -- they are good and soft and a good staple feeder as well but they are spendy------------- I also just ordered some prickly pear off of Amazon - I am going to try that in the salads -
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Re: A bearded dragon from Santa Claus: THEY'RE HERE NOW WHAT

Postby opaquelace » Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:38 pm

KarrieRee wrote:the BSFL will be fine --- I fed Blaze the large and he was really tiny when I got him -- its the super worms but I managed to find small ones and he could eat those for a few weeks then he graduated to mediums - but you can order worms for them as well - I give my two a variety of them well Blaze Hiccup is so finicky its ridiculous --- butter worms are good they are good and soft--- horn worms you haft to get small if you can - lately dubiaroaches has been sending me little ones -- so I feed some to Blaze and let some grow out bigger for Hiccup -- oh also you can get silk worms -- they are good and soft and a good staple feeder as well but they are spendy------------- I also just ordered some prickly pear off of Amazon - I am going to try that in the salads -
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Is there a limit to how much fruit they can have because of the sugar? I ordered some BSFL. They're cheaper than dubias which surprises me, and the dubias gross me out a lot more than I expected so might as well go full gross and get the fly larva lol. I did try to feed Elliot again. He wasn't as jumpy as last time, but still not interested. I did email the breeder just to see what advice he had. He did say he is in shed which can reduce appetite and that relocation stress happens and to just keep at it. I'm glad Elliot is for my more patient child. They will probably get along great. Their personalities are coincidentally suitable for each one of my kids lol.
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Re: A bearded dragon from Santa Claus: THEY'RE HERE NOW WHAT

Postby opaquelace » Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:43 pm

CandyCane likes to pose already.
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Re: A bearded dragon from Santa Claus: THEY'RE HERE NOW WHAT

Postby KarrieRee » Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:44 pm

Fruit is only offered occasionally because of the sugar-- especially blueberries they are high in sugar - more for a treat than anything - I usually feed honey crisp apples when I do feed them -- you will get used to the dubias --- I wasnt hot on roaches either but now I would have them any day over crickets --- they stink so bad --- and the chirping was terrible -- the BSFL can sit on your counter for a couple of weeks before turning to flys -- and if they do feed them to the dragons -- yes shed does cause them to loose some appetite as well so they are getting double wammy on the stress thing
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Re: A bearded dragon from Santa Claus: THEY'RE HERE NOW WHAT

Postby opaquelace » Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:54 pm

KarrieRee wrote:Fruit is only offered occasionally because of the sugar-- especially blueberries they are high in sugar - more for a treat than anything - I usually feed honey crisp apples when I do feed them -- you will get used to the dubias --- I wasnt hot on roaches either but now I would have them any day over crickets --- they stink so bad --- and the chirping was terrible -- the BSFL can sit on your counter for a couple of weeks before turning to flys -- and if they do feed them to the dragons -- yes shed does cause them to loose some appetite as well so they are getting double wammy on the stress thing
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I read a review about rinsing the larva? Do I have to do that? I'm sure I'll get used to all of this, and I felt so prepared with their enclosures and then they got here and I kind of froze lol. I knew they were only going to be 7-8 inches but man, it's tiny! Especially compared to how big they do get. Thanks so much for the information I feel a lot more at ease now. And I totally avoided the crickets because of information on them. The noise, the smell, the potential for infestation lol. So dubias for now and I have the BSFL on the way. I'm fairly sure my local pet store had some small horn worms. For the horn worms do I need to pay attention to the "food no bigger than the space between their eyes" rule since they're soft? Also how do you keep your BSFL?
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Re: A bearded dragon from Santa Claus: THEY'RE HERE NOW WHAT

Postby KarrieRee » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:00 pm

Keep the BSFL on the counter -- thats it - and yes you can rinse them off I do - horn worms you dont want to feed a giant one to your babies and believe me they get huge - they are soft its just that they do get to a point of being too big -- you can keep them in a cool place to keep them from growing so fast dont order a big amount I dont - I usually order 12 at most -- and you can feed one per day to each dragon -- so that would be like a weeks worth -
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