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Hey guys. My 2 beardies overnight have become very unactive, they're regurgitating their food. Not basking, skin changed Colour and their tails have gone a dark brown colour. I'm really worried for them I don't know what's wrong could someone please let a man a hand ???
 

KarrieRee

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Beardie name(s)
Hiccup he is 6 and Blaze is 4
Are your dragons housed together? If so you need to separate them ASAP unless your breeding them? Dragons should never be housed together - they are a territorial animal---- please post pics of the tanks and lighting and them please ---
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Karrie
 

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It can't be to
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do with the lighting or set up because a couple of days ago they were perfectly fine and I've bought them new equipment from a specialist up the road from my house.
They're also perfectly fine with eachother, they're a breeding pair and on that note they're showing the same symptoms as I've mentioned.
I don't understand what's going on with their tails weather it's stress or tail rot but their beards are normal Colour which is making me very paranoid ??
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Mini

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It can't be to do with the lighting or set up because a couple of days ago they were perfectly fine and I've bought them new equipment from a specialist up the road from my house.
They're also perfectly fine with eachother, they're a breeding pair and on that note they're showing the same symptoms as I've mentioned.
I don't understand what's going on with their tails weather it's stress or tail rot but their beards are normal Colour which is making me very paranoid ??
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KarrieRee

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Hiccup he is 6 and Blaze is 4
With the regurgitating the food and not basking is telling me something is off - the tail looks like its gonna shed -- is there any nips or bites or injuries on the tail? What is the diet your feeding- and I would recommend you get rid of the wood chips - any type of ingested could be fatal or cause serious injury ---
Karrie
 

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Their diet is chopped up kale with calcium powder and locust every occasional day.
As for the tails, I don't think it's shed because they've both got it pretty much the same places and the slightly bigger one (male) was more of a grey colour and for some reason his skin has gone really pale. I can't see any form of injury on their tails so surely it's all linked???
 

KarrieRee

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Beardie name(s)
Hiccup he is 6 and Blaze is 4
Ok if you can post pics of the ends of the tails and I am gonna have some others on here look at them and see what they think -- they both are doing the same thing?
Karrie
 

KarrieRee

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Hiccup he is 6 and Blaze is 4
I am gonna say the ends look like they are dead-- are they brittle and dry -- AHBD needs to look at these right away I have PM'd her --- and Tracie the vet tech mod on here shes on late at night ---
Karrie
 

AHBD

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The tail ends are just dark due to stress or a shed coming on. If they have both vomited, something they both ate is likely the culprit. What have they eaten in the past day or 2 ? Also, did you actually see them vomit or just found the odd looking excretion ? I would worry about the wood chips but it seems too far fetched that they would both get sick from accidental ingestion of wood. How many watts are your heat bulbs , can you post pics of the light set up ?
 

Mini

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I was preying it wasn't tail rot, thank goodness for that?.
Yesterday I fed them some morio worms, I feel like that's what's done it because I witnessed them vomiting earlier and that's what was in the vomit. There's been no signs of wood chippings in there vomit or feces
 

AHBD

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Yeah, the morios [ superworms in the U.S.] can cause vomiting if beardies eat too many or too late in the day to digest them. How many did they eat ?
 

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I gave them around 8 each. I felt something was wrong cuz I ran them a bath about 5 hours afterwards to get some exercise and they really love it but my male started getting really hostile with a black beard and my female just puffed out and floated, didn't move an inch. Ever since then they've shown all the symptoms I've mentioned and my male has changed Colour. He's Normally a light grey and his skin is currently yellow
 

Drache613

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Hello,

They both look healthy, but obviously have an upset system.
I was actually going to ask what they had eaten since they both had the same symptoms.
Do you normally feed them superworms or was this the first time? What do you gutload the
worms with, a dry feed or something else?
If you have any probiotics, such as a non dairy organic soy yogurt or a non dairy acidophiluz,
you can try to give them some of that to help settle down their tummy. Bathing them after
eating might have upset their system.
The darkening of the tail is indicative of them not feeling well.

Tracie
 

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Hiya lovely,

I've just woken up and it appears there tails have gone down to Normal again, I gave them around 8 super worms each and it was a dry feed. It was there first time as I was experimenting on it to see there likes and dislikes.
I'm glad to see a difference in there scales however my male still has a pale yellow tone to his skin when he's Normally grey and it looks like his lips a like a pale pink colour on the outside. My female still looks really weak and she appears to be more grey when she's always been a light colour
Just incase it's impaction I'm gonna try them on some pumpkin puree to flush out there system out ontop of baths to try soothing their stomachs a little
 
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