Beware of vets giving enemas to your dragon

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Beware of vets giving enemas to your dragon

Postby AHBD » Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:33 am

Just a warning about this because there are at times very bad reactions afterwards including beardie dying within a day to a week . Some vets give an enema when a dragon is going in to brumation and not pooing during this time, not recognizing that beardies rarely poo during their " sleepy " phase. An enema is very harsh on beardies and it can really unbalance their system and even possibly perforate the intestine end up with a sick or dead beardie. If your vet ever suggests an enema, be sure that the dragon actually needs it and is truly impacted with foreign materials [ like sand, walnut, wood chips, etc. ] before agreeing to it. Always ask for alternative methods first [ lactulose/enulose ] or better yet try natural laxatives like baby foods [ prunes, squash , sweet potato, mixed with olive oil ] and increase hydration as much as possible.
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Re: Beware of vets giving enemas to your dragon

Postby kingofnobbys » Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:03 am

I second that.

I have a friend who lost her impacted but utherwize healthy and active and very friendly bearded dragon because the vet decided to
> give an enema
> flood the upper intestinal track with water under pressure
and this dragons was sent home immediately despite being
> very cold
> very lethargic
> very dark
> full on black beard
> gaping and having trouble breathing
and was dead within a couple of hours.

The vet involved wasn't some hack general practice vet , but one of the most highly recommended REPTILE vets in NSW who claimed to have trained in zoos.

If the vet suggests a enema , demand to see images proving it's necessary , no images , seek a second opinion .
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Re: Beware of vets giving enemas to your dragon

Postby Claudiusx » Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:30 am

Due to the fact that a few members here have lost their dragons from vets giving them enemas just in the past couple months, this thread will be stickied for awhile to raise awareness.

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Re: Beware of vets giving enemas to your dragon

Postby Koru25 » Tue May 19, 2020 1:09 am

Hi thanks for this post.

Would it be worth including this part
AHBD wrote: beardies rarely poo during their "sleepy " phase.
in the Brumation Care sheets section in the links above, to reassure other keepers that are just learning?

I have certainly been worrying about it a lot since my beardie has been waking up sporadically and eating some locusts and hasn't pooed in 2 weeks. I have been worrying about him getting impaction or the locust fermenting in his gut. Is this not something to worry about then? Thanks in advance.
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Re: Beware of vets giving enemas to your dragon

Postby Poggerna » Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:33 am

Speaking as someone in the medical field (for hoomans, but same principles apply): Avoid invasive procedures unless you're 500% sure the conservative approaches aren't working and that something is actually bad enough to warrant risking a life for.

ALWAYS start with conservative treatments, then graduate to medical treatments if those aren't working, and THEN FINALLY go for surgical/other invasive treatments if all else fails.

But of course if you or your beardie or any other living entity are very clearly dying, go straight to the emergent approach.
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