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Can you administer activated charcoal? If you don't have any on hand i'd highly suggest running to a store and getting some.
Even if the worm wasn't around pesticides, wild hornworms are poisonous to dragons due to the fact that they eat the tomato leaf.
How is he acting right now?
If you give us his weight we can help you with dosing amounts.
-Brandon
Even if the worm wasn't around pesticides, wild hornworms are poisonous to dragons due to the fact that they eat the tomato leaf.
How is he acting right now?
If you give us his weight we can help you with dosing amounts.
-Brandon
Ok that's good that it wasnt the large ones!
It's really a judgement call then at this point. Usually they would start having I'll effects by now if something was going to happen. Administering the AC at this point would be more so for peace of mind.
If you want you can just keep a close eye on him for the rest of the night and see how things go.
-Brandon
It's really a judgement call then at this point. Usually they would start having I'll effects by now if something was going to happen. Administering the AC at this point would be more so for peace of mind.
If you want you can just keep a close eye on him for the rest of the night and see how things go.
-Brandon
Toxic effects usually cause lethargic behavior. they basically just start acting sick. More serious toxins could cause seizures or convulsions.
Other signs of distress would be a black beard. That's almost always seen when they are getting hit hard by a toxin.
At this point, it being almost an hour, I'd say you can calm down a bite more (I know its hard) as long as hes acting normal and has no black beard.
If he drinks in the bath you could try to give him a bath so he can have some water. Make sure he has at least an hour after the bath under the lights to dry off before bed.
I'm sorry if I alarmed you at first. I just wanted to get you the details you needed for worst case scenario incase he was really acting sick! I'm so glad he isnt!
-Brandon
Other signs of distress would be a black beard. That's almost always seen when they are getting hit hard by a toxin.
At this point, it being almost an hour, I'd say you can calm down a bite more (I know its hard) as long as hes acting normal and has no black beard.
If he drinks in the bath you could try to give him a bath so he can have some water. Make sure he has at least an hour after the bath under the lights to dry off before bed.
I'm sorry if I alarmed you at first. I just wanted to get you the details you needed for worst case scenario incase he was really acting sick! I'm so glad he isnt!
-Brandon
Right now he is snuggled into my neck but when I put him down he perks up but looks annoyed, I'm just super worried about him because I got him from a couple off Craigslist who no longer had time for him. He had the beginnings of MBD, several stuck sheds (when he started to shed they would pull the shed off) and I looks like when they were pulling off sheds they might have damaged his nose.
And to ease your mind a bit more, I did a bit more research into the toxic compound that would be present in the wild hornworms. Apparently it doesnt very readily absorb through the GI system, at least not like a toxin such as a pesticide would. and it seems that it would require a decently high amount of the toxin to be ingested to cause any serious issues. Since this was such a small worm, it likely didnt have much of the toxin for a 300g+ dragon. It would be more of a concern if it were a larger worm, and multiple were ate.
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