Possible ADV

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Possible ADV

Postby bocaz0r » Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:22 am

Hello guys,

I have purchased a baby bearded dragon last week from a pet store. He started acting very unusual over the past few days. At first he seemed active and with a big apetite, however, he started stargazing a few days in a row. I'm not sure if it's really ADV, but he stays with his head straight up for hours and hours. A few nights ago he didn't sleep at all. All he did was jump and twirl and keep his head upwards. We offered him a variety of meals, the only one he eats now are dubia roaches..
To give you a few details about my vivarium (I might be doing something wrong). I'm using a paper substrate, 4ft vivarium with a thermostat with a T8 uvb lamp. The basking area has an average temperature of around 40° Celsius, 35 in the middle, and 26-27 in the cold section. He has a 12 hour cycle on night and day.
I'm trying to feed him veggies but he is not interested. I would also like to mention he is 16 weeks old and is currently shedding.
Below is a picture of him sleeping the other night. (Same posture that he has during daytime)
Any advice will help. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Possible ADV

Postby AHBD » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:10 am

Hi there, sorry to see your pet in this condition. It is highly likely to be ADV, stargazing + neurological problems are 2 big signs of it. :( Still, there's a slight chance it's calcium related if your uvb is not close enough being a t8. What is the distance, can you post a picture showing the light placement ? The one positive thing is he's still eating. What size are the dubias ?
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Re: Possible ADV

Postby bocaz0r » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:56 pm

Thanks for your reply, much appreciated. To answer your questions, I am feeding him small dubias, between half a cm and 1 cm max, not bigger than the space between his eyes. We were thinking about calcium deficit, so we have a calcium + D3 powder that we cover the dubias before he eats. Also we got a liquid one that we were planning to feed him with a syringe. I will post some images with the light setup and The way we found him this morning.

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Re: Possible ADV

Postby Drache613 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:58 am

Hello,

He definitely has some type of neurological problem, based on the pictures you have
posted.
I do recommend though, that the light be put into a light fixture so that the UVB will be
reflected directly downwards towards him. When it is mounted like that, it refracts in all
different directions & your dragon doesn't receive much of the benefits from it.
Which brand are you using?
The tank is beautiful though & he has a lot of space. Are you in the UK?
If you need to test for Adeno, let me know.

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Re: Possible ADV

Postby bocaz0r » Sat Dec 07, 2019 2:09 am

Thanks for the reply. Yes we just bought a reflector for the uvb lamp. We didn't install it yet because beardie had too much stress, but we are planning to install it when he's a bit calmer. All the bulbs are Arcadia make.
The only reason the tank is empty is because we took a few taller things out. He was climbing on them and falling very bad, so we were concerned . We are in the UK yes, we actually took him to the pet store now because they will be able to do the test on him.
The people in the store also said it's unnatural and that it could possibly ADV.
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Re: Possible ADV

Postby Drache613 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:23 am

Hello,

How is your dragon doing today?
Great, I would most definitely get that light reflector installed as soon as you can to help
increase the UVB output for him. Oh ok, that sounds good the pet store is able to do the
adeno test on him.
That was a good idea to remove all of the higher basking & climbing areas in his tank so
he is safer & can't fall or flip himself as easily.
Let us know how he is doing & what the test results yield.

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Re: Possible ADV

Postby bocaz0r » Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:52 am

Hi,

Well, he is currently with the pet store. They said they will monitor him and if necessary they will bring the vet to check him out. Now, after 3 days the people from the store said he is not stargazing anymore and that he seems fine. I'm not sure what to do, we can bring him home I guess. We have installed the reflector and lowered the uvb lamp slightly. We will keep the higher decorations outside of the tank for now just until we can see there is no more problem with him.
Do you think that the substrate could have anything to do with his behaviors? Currently we have a sheet of baking paper but we also have some exo-terra desert sand waiting, however, after some research online, sand is not really recommended for baby dragons. What is your opinion on this? Thanks
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