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Really sick (and possibly egg bound!) Help! (RIP Cisco).

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:24 am
by HippieLizards
Cisco REALLY has not been her normal happy self at all lately (started Tuesday night). she has had a black beard ever since Tuesday night, and sunken in eyes Wednesday at around 1:00 PM, and Refusing to eat Thursday at around 3:00 PM, and now Lethargy Friday at around 9:00 AM.

I am Extremely worried about my baby and I really want to know if she is ok. ☚ī¸ and I can't get her to a vet anytime soon (soonest would be sept 25th probably).

When I pick her up she gulps up air and then snuggles with me. She also has had a slightly firmer stomach of that helps.

Photos (day by day documentation of her):

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First day of showing signs of sickness.

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Second day.

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and Finally today.

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and a collection of her through the past few days.

Other things to add: We're taking all three beardies on a 10 hour drive tonight and going to be out of town for a week with the beardies.

I Will post updates as soon as I can. and Thank you in advance! 😀

Also Cisco a few days ago:
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See? Perfectly normal. 😕

-HippieLizards.

Re: Really sick or really paranoid? Help!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:38 am
by HippieLizards
More info:
Female,
3 1-2 - 4 years old.
19"
1 lb 2oz when weighed last time.
Normally the most active beardie but not right now. đŸ˜Ĩ
Never been bred before (to my knowledge).

Edit: She moved around some but went back into an alarming figure again. đŸ˜Ĩ
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She did poop this morning so that's great, but her fat pads have sunken in slightly and are slightly squishy.

Re: Really sick or really paranoid? Help!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:53 am
by AHBD
She may be in pretty bad shape from your description and the pics. Something is causing extreme discomfort + bloating, possibly carrying eggs. If that's the cause then she may be eggbound. If you could get her to an emergency vet for xrays that could at least clarify that. I hope she gets through this !

Re: Really sick or really paranoid? Help!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:23 am
by HippieLizards
Yeah, I put her in the dig box and she did nothing but glare at me, I could feel a slight (probably around 1" long) lump on one side but I don't know, I'm really really worried. I Feared possible Egg retention but I hope not. Perhaps I could see if there are any reliable vets in FL while we're there. 🤔 I just want my baby to stop being in pain. đŸ˜Ĩ

If she does have Dystocia, how would one treat it? ☚ī¸ Isn't it some sort of surgery? Do they normally survive after being egg bound? đŸ˜Ĩ

Re: Really sick (and possibly egg bound!) Help!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:00 pm
by AHBD
A vet could give a shot of Oxytocin, but only if the eggs are already in the uterus . Beardies can + do die from dystocia, I sure hope that's not it. See about a vet ASAP, in the meantime put her in some warm water for 10 minutes or so, sometimes it gives them the urge to poo and then an egg pops out.

Re: Really sick (and possibly egg bound!) Help!

PostPosted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:21 pm
by Drache613
Hello,

Oh dear, she is not looking well. I am sorry to hear that!
I agree, it would be ideal to get her in immediately because they crash very quickly.
As suggested, the oxytocin can be given & is usually very effective as long as the eggs are
ready to be laid & have dropped. It greatly depends on how bad the situation is as to whether
or not they survive. A lot of them do, but, some go downhill & cannot recover. If they are
egg bound & can't lay for whatever reason, surgery is the best option. If you can get her to lay
then she will probably pull out of it with some help.

Let us know how she is doing.

Tracie

Re: Really sick (and possibly egg bound!) Help!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:07 pm
by HippieLizards
Drache613 wrote:Hello,

Oh dear, she is not looking well. I am sorry to hear that!
I agree, it would be ideal to get her in immediately because they crash very quickly.
As suggested, the oxytocin can be given & is usually very effective as long as the eggs are
ready to be laid & have dropped. It greatly depends on how bad the situation is as to whether
or not they survive. A lot of them do, but, some go downhill & cannot recover. If they are
egg bound & can't lay for whatever reason, surgery is the best option. If you can get her to lay
then she will probably pull out of it with some help.

Let us know how she is doing.

Tracie
I am not entirely sure if she has eggs, If I were to find a local reptile vet how would we find out if she does have eggs? or find out if she has Dystocia? How would I care for her to ready her for her possible eggs?

AHBD wrote:A vet could give a shot of Oxytocin, but only if the eggs are already in the uterus . Beardies can + do die from dystocia, I sure hope that's not it. See about a vet ASAP, in the meantime put her in some warm water for 10 minutes or so, sometimes it gives them the urge to poo and then an egg pops out.

We finished our drive and Cisco seems to be fine. I have some more photos of her and I did feel some subtle lumps on her belly but it isn't as obvious today. She did poo on the drive here, No eggs. and unfortunately there aren't any good reptile vets near us (we're out of town and can't get back to our vet anytime soon unfortunately). ☚ī¸

She was a lot more active today and basked a lot in the window, she didn't BB as much and her eyes are less sunken in thankfully.

I will post another update tonight on Her. Lord willing she will pull through this. ❤ī¸ Thank Y'all so much for your help. :)

Re: Really sick (and possibly egg bound!) Help!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:30 pm
by AHBD
I hope very much that it's not a serious issue and that she's going to be O.K.

Re: Really sick (and possibly egg bound!) Help!

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:09 pm
by Drache613
Hello,

Well, that is definitely some good news then, she isn't black bearding as much & was more
active today. I hope that she is feeling better.
Maybe she was a little backed up possibly & had a tummy ache?

Keep us updated on her.
Tracie

Re: Really sick (and possibly egg bound!) Help!

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:34 am
by HippieLizards
More photos of her:
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this shows where I can feel the slight lumps.
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Trying to get a good photo of her slightly more bloated belly but she kept trying to climb back onto me.
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This morning was probably the worst she looked that morning which is good (she didn't look totally dead)
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she was running around me then she decided to rest on my shoulder again.
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she looked much better in this photo. :)
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Cisco liked cuddling with Daisy when Daisy escaped her carrier and climbed over to me lol.
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this was about as black her beard got yesterday which is GREAT. Because it wasn't her normal full beard pitch black. :blob5:
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she liked basking in the window.
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and this was her last night basking.

Will post an update on how she's doing tonight! :D

Re: Really sick (and possibly egg bound!) Help!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:51 am
by Drache613
Hello,

How is she doing today? She looked pretty good by the end of the day on Saturday, then,
plus, her black beard was not there really.
Do you feel the lumps still? I really don't know if the lumps are eggs or not, but it is definitely
a huge possibility. You are still going to try & get her to the vet soon for a checkup?

Let us know how she is doing.

Tracie

Re: Really sick (and possibly egg bound!) Help!

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 2:02 pm
by AHBD
Poor girl still looks unwell. :( Does she spend a lot of time out of her tank ? Be sure the majority of it is spent inder the uvb + heat. Hope she feels better + things get resolved.

Re: Really sick (and possibly egg bound!) Help!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:28 am
by HippieLizards
AHBD wrote:Poor girl still looks unwell. :( Does she spend a lot of time out of her tank ? Be sure the majority of it is spent inder the uvb + heat. Hope she feels better + things get resolved.

Yeah :(, But she has been doing excellent this Sunday and Monday. :blob5: She was much more active, no BBing at all on Sunday, still refusing to eat and I'm still feeling some slight lumps but they are not as pronounced anymore. :)

Also I still haven't found a good herp vet at all yet. :|

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Little booger Wanted to show off for the camera lol. ❤ī¸
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that was about as Black bearded she got on Sunday.
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Now Monday, She was terrific this Monday. :D
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Took Cisco and the other beardies to the beach for some quality UVB and they loved it (especially Cisco).
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Will post more updates soon. :)

Re: Really sick (and possibly egg bound!) Help!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:49 am
by AHBD
She does look good sunbathing there. :)

Re: Really sick (and possibly egg bound!) Help!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:27 am
by Drache613
Hello,

I agree, she does look happy there in the sun! :D

Tracie