Dead or coma?

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Dead or coma?

Postby RileySheffer » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:07 pm

Hi,

My Bearded Dragon Lady has been acting weirdly since the first of the year. Lethargic, sleeping a lot, and not eating no matter what I try. I suspected brumation, but now things have gotten even worse. Lady is, I presume to be, not longer living. All websites I've read say that if they are dead that their eyes will be rolled back or caved in, however, Lady's eyes still have clearly visible pupils and eyes are not caved in. He also is not stiff at all, legs and toes not stiff and belly not stiff. His beard is black, and he is still warm. I can't find any signs of breathing, and have tried for a heartbeat and I (although I may be paranoid in my frantic attempts) feel like I felt a heart beat. My beardie's tank has had the right temp and I've been misting him so he is not dehydrated.

Yesterday I made a very fast run to the store because his light went out. When I found him, he was very cold. I very quickly gave him a warm bath and he woke up, beard black, and wouldn't move no matter what. When I put him back in his tank, he only wriggled and squirmed to get under his cave, did not walk or crawl. He has had a new light since then.

My Petsmart's Banfield pet hospital is closed right now and I am frantic to find an answer. Is he dead? Is he in a coma? Is this some sort of serious hibernation/brumation. He is not responsive at all. His belly is not stiff either so it can't be impaction. I have many regrets because he may have had a parasite or something if he is dead.

Paralyzed? Coma? Dead? How do effectively I check for a pulse?

I really need help and am hoping for a fast response, please, anyone!

Thank you.
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Re: Dead or coma?

Postby AHBD » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:12 pm

Can you post pics of Lady ? Is Lady a male ? If he does not respond after tonight you can assume that he's dead. Put him on his back and see if he does anything. I am sorry if you lost him though. :(

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https://www.beardeddragon.org/useruploads/ Then use the XIMG to upload them
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Re: Dead or coma?

Postby kingofnobbys » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:18 pm

Leave him in his tank overnight (right way up) .... if he's dead , the blood will pool and his eyes will become sunken and he'll likely become quite stiff in the tail and limbs.

Any vet can check an unresponsive animal for signs of life using a portable Doppler ultra sound , needs not be a reptile vet.
If he's asleep or has a very very slow metabolism cause he's been allowed to become very cool, he'll be very limp and unresponsive , warming him up will likely wake him up and make him responsive.
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Re: Dead or coma?

Postby RileySheffer » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:31 pm

Here are some pictures:

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Gave him a warm bath + turned him on his back. No response.
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Re: Dead or coma?

Postby RileySheffer » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:33 pm

Should I leave his light on all night? On top of or under basking rock?
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Re: Dead or coma?

Postby RileySheffer » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:37 pm

He is a male. I also gave him a warm bath right after I found him cold yesterday and he woke up. His death or coma happened (or at least I found him like it) a few hours ago. He is not cold now and like I said earlier, not waking up.
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Re: Dead or coma?

Postby AHBD » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:31 pm

What a pretty boy. Just leave the lights off tonight, if he is dead you don't want the heat to accelerate decomposition. So there was no movement when he was on his back ? Try it again tomorrow and then flip him over from a couple of times.
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Re: Dead or coma?

Postby RileySheffer » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:41 pm

Will do. Thank you so much!
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Re: Dead or coma?

Postby Drache613 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:38 pm

Hello,

Wow, what a+ big beautiful boy.... I am so sorry about your dragon, it is very hard to tell by
those pictures. :cry:
Let us know how things are looking tomorrow.

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Re: Dead or coma?

Postby RileySheffer » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:25 am

Thank you all for your support.

I checked Lady this morning and found him the same as he was last night. Upon inspecting him, he is undoubtedly passed on. He is stiff, lost a bit of his warmth, however his eyes had not caved in.

He had a good life. I plan to either cremate or bury him when I get home tonight (despite the frozen ground here).

Once again thank you all so much for your continuous support in this tough time. I’d like to think he’s hanging out with his brother now swimming around, basking, and eating all of the carrots and super worms that he loved so much.
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Re: Dead or coma?

Postby AHBD » Mon Jan 22, 2018 4:41 am

I'm so sorry, how very sad this is for you. :( All my sympathy on the loss of Lady.
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Re: Dead or coma?

Postby Drache613 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:44 pm

Hello,

I am so sorry you lost your girl, Lady. :cry: It seemed like it was sudden, too.
My sincere condolences.

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