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Bay leaves for leaf litter

PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:10 pm
by Wickedpogana
Is bay leafs good or okay for leaf litter I couldn't find much information on it any would be useful

Re: Bay leaves for leaf litter

PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:16 pm
by KarrieRee
Leaves and Leaf Litter
Leaf litter can provide for great hiding spots which is likely to be attractive to many bearded dragons, assuming the leaves that are either beneficial for the bearded dragon or at least non toxic.

Issue with leaves includes hiding spots for invertebrate making it almost impossible to catch them. In addition cleaning will be problematic. Although the entire substrate can be replaced daily even if there is a ready source. Regardless it is something best confined rather than used over the entire enclosure.

Re: Bay leaves for leaf litter

PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:34 pm
by Wickedpogana
KarrieRee wrote:Leaves and Leaf Litter
Leaf litter can provide for great hiding spots which is likely to be attractive to many bearded dragons, assuming the leaves that are either beneficial for the bearded dragon or at least non toxic.

Issue with leaves includes hiding spots for invertebrate making it almost impossible to catch them. In addition cleaning will be problematic. Although the entire substrate can be replaced daily even if there is a ready source. Regardless it is something best confined rather than used over the entire enclosure.


Thank you for your response karrie I'm aware of the uses of leaf litter but I'm wondering if using bay leaves for leaf litter is okay or is it harmful I know the usual like magnolia leaves mulberry and cattapa but I was wondering if bay leaves would work as well but if in the same sense not harm him if he decided to nibble it and my enclosure is half bioactive and half tile so no worrys on constantly being on the leaves or any such sort

Re: Bay leaves for leaf litter

PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:35 pm
by KarrieRee
I really dont know -- some one else on here would haft to weigh in on that subject
Karrie

Re: Bay leaves for leaf litter

PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 7:41 pm
by Wickedpogana
KarrieRee wrote:I really dont know -- some one else on here would haft to weigh in on that subject
Karrie

Yeah I couldn't find any sufficient information anywhere I hope someone on here as something on it if not I wont bother with the bay leaves to play it safe but hopefully someone has some insight here

Re: Bay leaves for leaf litter

PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:20 am
by Claudiusx
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Re: Bay leaves for leaf litter

PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:22 am
by Claudiusx
Hi there,

Since it's an unknown and no one really has an answer for you, I'd just stick to what people usually use in bioactive setups. Unless there is some reason you are set on bay leaves, I'd just go with what's already been tried and tested.

-Brandon

Re: Bay leaves for leaf litter

PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 8:25 am
by MrSpectrum
As I posted in the other thread...
All I've found is this from https://www.lizards101.com/what-can-bea ... bay-leaves
Can bearded dragons eat bay leaves

No, bay leaves have not been tested for toxicity in bearded dragons, so don’t feed. And on top of it, bay leaves are rather tough so could also pose a choking hazard.

Re: Bay leaves for leaf litter

PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:32 am
by Wickedpogana
MrSpectrum wrote:As I posted in the other thread...
All I've found is this from https://www.lizards101.com/what-can-bea ... bay-leaves
Can bearded dragons eat bay leaves

No, bay leaves have not been tested for toxicity in bearded dragons, so don’t feed. And on top of it, bay leaves are rather tough so could also pose a choking hazard.
okay thank you I will stay away from them but I wasnt planning on feeding him them just leaf litter I'll just go with oak leaves or magnolia

Re: Bay leaves for leaf litter

PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:34 am
by Wickedpogana
claudiusx wrote:Hi there,

Since it's an unknown and no one really has an answer for you, I'd just stick to what people usually use in bioactive setups. Unless there is some reason you are set on bay leaves, I'd just go with what's already been tried and tested.

-Brandon

Not set on anything persay for leaf litter just already had some organic bay leaves which have a nice smell I'll just stick to what people have done and succeeded in

Re: Bay leaves for leaf litter

PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:46 am
by MrSpectrum
Wickedpogana wrote: I will stay away from them but I wasnt planning on feeding him them just leaf litter I'll just go with oak leaves or magnolia

Beardies tend to taste/nibble on anything & everything in their enclosures, so IMO it's better to be safe than sorry. Anything & everything that goes in there (decor items, plants, substrates, paints/finishes, etc.) should be beardie-safe. :wink:

Re: Bay leaves for leaf litter

PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2020 1:24 pm
by Wickedpogana
MrSpectrum wrote:
Wickedpogana wrote: I will stay away from them but I wasnt planning on feeding him them just leaf litter I'll just go with oak leaves or magnolia

Beardies tend to taste/nibble on anything & everything in their enclosures, so IMO it's better to be safe than sorry. Anything & everything that goes in there (decor items, plants, substrates, paints/finishes, etc.) should be beardie-safe. :wink:

Indeed 👍😁