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Re: Another dangerous fire day , this time we were effected

Postby MrSpectrum » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:25 am

Rain & thunderstorms sounds good on a couple of levels; it's never gotten that hot here in the northeast, but out west... definitely. Folks there spend as much on cooling as we do on heating--probably more because we heat with natural gas here, which is much cheaper than electric.
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Re: Another dangerous fire day , this time we were effected

Postby DragonPete » Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:34 am

Hope all is well for your family. We've been watching those fires for months. It's heartbreaking!
Stay safe. Big hugs to all.
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Re: Another dangerous fire day , this time we were effected

Postby kingofnobbys » Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:59 am

MrSpectrum wrote:Rain & thunderstorms sounds good on a couple of levels; it's never gotten that hot here in the northeast, but out west... definitely. Folks there spend as much on cooling as we do on heating--probably more because we heat with natural gas here, which is much cheaper than electric.


Problem with some rain is it'll not break the drought , and isn't enough to put out the bushfires ( bad situation near Canberra and in the Gippland region ) , and it'll make things even more unconfortable in the next week or so if the high temperatures hang about ( very high humidity especially at night - I feel sorry for folks who can afford aircon and are too scared to leave their aircon running all night ( who try to make do with ceiling fans that just move humid air ) or have leave windows and entry doors open to try to catch any breeze that might about , and for those people who have to try to sleep during day ( shiftworkers …. been there done that ).
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EWSs : new rescues Cheakie (subadult M) Nov 2019, Gutzy (F) 27Sep19, Fluffy (F) rescued injured by lawnwacker 14Nov17, Wriggles (F) - injured rescue, over 8 yrs old, RIP 2Feb16 old age. Lucky juvenile (M) - cat attack rescue (lost r-eye, broken r-lower jaw), fatal SI RIP 21Jul2010.
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Re: Another dangerous fire day , this time we were effected

Postby kingofnobbys » Mon Feb 03, 2020 3:34 am

Watching 4Corners Special Briefing & QandA program this evening on this BLACK SUMMER's bushfire national disaster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdGqTQkRVwE
or ABC international iView app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... ernational

Apparently some people ( rightwing climate denialists who have very big mouths who are overseas ) are claiming 50% of the fires were caused by arsonists.
Fact Check =rfs.nsw.gov.au , ruralfire.qld.gov.au , emergency.vic.gov.au , and cfs.sa.gov.au all indicate under 1% of the fires can be attributed to arsonists , all the rest were caused by dry lightning strikes and ember attack (from pre-existing fires) .
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EBTSs : George & Mildred (born july 2010).
EWSs : new rescues Cheakie (subadult M) Nov 2019, Gutzy (F) 27Sep19, Fluffy (F) rescued injured by lawnwacker 14Nov17, Wriggles (F) - injured rescue, over 8 yrs old, RIP 2Feb16 old age. Lucky juvenile (M) - cat attack rescue (lost r-eye, broken r-lower jaw), fatal SI RIP 21Jul2010.
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Re: Another dangerous fire day , this time we were effected

Postby MrSpectrum » Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:02 am

kingofnobbys wrote:Apparently some people ( rightwing climate denialists who have very big mouths who are overseas ) are claiming 50% of the fires were caused by arsonists.

Yeah, and a certain bigmouth claims brush fires could be avoided if people raked the brush & forests... Sheesh! :roll:

I can't bring myself to laugh about it. The world has lost too much to this kind of ignorance/denial.
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Re: Another dangerous fire day , this time we were effected

Postby kingofnobbys » Tue Feb 04, 2020 8:41 pm

MrSpectrum wrote:
kingofnobbys wrote:Apparently some people ( rightwing climate denialists who have very big mouths who are overseas ) are claiming 50% of the fires were caused by arsonists.

Yeah, and a certain bigmouth claims brush fires could be avoided if people raked the brush & forests... Sheesh! :roll:

I can't bring myself to laugh about it. The world has lost too much to this kind of ignorance/denial.

110,000 sq km burnt so far at last estimate .

The storms ,instead of putting fires out, created more fires , now there are lots of new fires on the north coast ( these will have been created by dry lightning strikes ).
Fires are on coast now around Kempsey , Port Macquarie , Coffs Harbor, Yamba, Evan's Head, and on the western slopes at Narrabri , Hanging Rock , Glen Innes.
The fires near Canberra and Bega are still at emergency level.
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EWSs : new rescues Cheakie (subadult M) Nov 2019, Gutzy (F) 27Sep19, Fluffy (F) rescued injured by lawnwacker 14Nov17, Wriggles (F) - injured rescue, over 8 yrs old, RIP 2Feb16 old age. Lucky juvenile (M) - cat attack rescue (lost r-eye, broken r-lower jaw), fatal SI RIP 21Jul2010.
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Re: Another dangerous fire day , this time we were effected

Postby NBGwen » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:46 am

Sounds like it's so horrible your way. I hope that rains (not flooding) come to help. I know Canada has sent over lots of firefighters and I hope the arsonists get their comeuppance! I've been trying hard not to think about the animals too much, I know the human tragedy is horrible, but the animals are so helpless. So many species lost.
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Re: Another dangerous fire day , this time we were effected

Postby kingofnobbys » Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:23 pm

We get the edge of the monsoon here in February (usually), ie it's our wettest month , combined usually with the orographic effect.

So far February has been cloudy but dry with only showers from afternoon and evening thunderstorms.
As far as I can tell from the NSW RURAL FIRE SERVICE "Fires Near Me" map, all the fires from a couple of days ago are still burning , but at least the fires near Bega and Canberra are no longer rated EMERGENCY levels.

That said , it's been raining off and since the early hours , and is raining here now and the forcast is for light rain to hang about for the next week.

At least we're getting a breather from the extreme heatwave conditions that were here most of December and January. Quite cool outside today (25 degC and was a chilly 21 degC overnight).


Another powerful tropical cyclone of the NW ( Pilbara ) coast, this one looks like it has Karratha in it sites for Friday night , a quite nice town of about 12,000 that's right on the coast and prone to severe flooding in cyclonic tidal surges.
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Puff (RIP 10Dec15),Rex (RIP 16Mar17),Toothless (RIP 26Nov17).Peppa (RIP 22Mar19).
EBTSs : George & Mildred (born july 2010).
EWSs : new rescues Cheakie (subadult M) Nov 2019, Gutzy (F) 27Sep19, Fluffy (F) rescued injured by lawnwacker 14Nov17, Wriggles (F) - injured rescue, over 8 yrs old, RIP 2Feb16 old age. Lucky juvenile (M) - cat attack rescue (lost r-eye, broken r-lower jaw), fatal SI RIP 21Jul2010.
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Re: Another dangerous fire day , this time we were effected

Postby NBGwen » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:58 pm

I'm.glad that things have 'cooled' a bit. I don't watch the news much, but I do listen to BBC World...and well, people have been sharing the news on FB (unless it's an actual news site, I take it as it is you know?).

Seems like Australia is just getting a beating weather wise. Stay safe and keep us updated!
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Re: Another dangerous fire day , this time we were effected

Postby kingofnobbys » Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:36 am

Well I just had a dangerous weather warning pop up on my Android phone , checked the BOM and
INTENSE COASTAL TROUGH BRINGING HEAVY RAIN TO PARTS OF EASTERN NEW SOUTH WALES

I'm in the effected area , so can expect DAMAGING WINDS and HEAVY RAINFALL over the next few days and the gales will increase in strength tomorrow and over the weekend here as the Tasman Sea low deepens and the storm intensifies and moves south ( down the coast ).
Talk on the news tonight was of sea swell to 7m and higher.
We've had huge 200,000 to 300,000 tonne coal and ore carriers shipwrecked on local beaches under these conditions in the past ( MV Sygna a Norwegian bulk carrier that ran aground during heavy seas in 1974, Pasha Bulka which tried to make a run into the harbor when her anchors dragged in a very violent Tasman Cyclone in 2007).

My skinks and dragons have all been hunkered today , and not a wild skink in sight either. They know foul weather is coming.
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EWSs : new rescues Cheakie (subadult M) Nov 2019, Gutzy (F) 27Sep19, Fluffy (F) rescued injured by lawnwacker 14Nov17, Wriggles (F) - injured rescue, over 8 yrs old, RIP 2Feb16 old age. Lucky juvenile (M) - cat attack rescue (lost r-eye, broken r-lower jaw), fatal SI RIP 21Jul2010.
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Re: Another dangerous fire day , this time we were effected

Postby NBGwen » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:16 am

Geez Louise! :banghead: Australia can't catch a break! I hope you and your scaly family stay safe!
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Re: Another dangerous fire day , this time we were effected

Postby kingofnobbys » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:30 pm

NBGwen wrote:Geez Louise! :banghead: Australia can't catch a break! I hope you and your scaly family stay safe!


Had 8 inches rain so far today.

Gonna be windy and wild tomorrow from about 9am til Sunday about 9pm , wind speed predicted on the coast here at 70 kts, gusting 120 kts. About the same intensity as a category 3 TC.

Looks like TC Damien will be a Category 4 when it hits the coast near Karratha about midday Saturday , right on the local high tide.

All the rivers on the NSW coast are in now in flood warning and larger than normal king tides are forecast.
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EBTSs : George & Mildred (born july 2010).
EWSs : new rescues Cheakie (subadult M) Nov 2019, Gutzy (F) 27Sep19, Fluffy (F) rescued injured by lawnwacker 14Nov17, Wriggles (F) - injured rescue, over 8 yrs old, RIP 2Feb16 old age. Lucky juvenile (M) - cat attack rescue (lost r-eye, broken r-lower jaw), fatal SI RIP 21Jul2010.
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Re: Another dangerous fire day , this time we were effected

Postby NBGwen » Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:22 am

From bad to worse ☹ Stay safe.
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Re: Another dangerous fire day , this time we were effected

Postby kingofnobbys » Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:31 am

NBGwen wrote:From bad to worse ☹ Stay safe.


Farmers and people in country towns see the monsoonal rain event / storms and flooding as a GOOD thing ( in the main ) , farm dams that were bone dry are filling up , as are water tanks , and the creeks and rivers are now flowing (some even in flood).

From BOM current warnings :
Wollombi Brook and Lower Hunter River == moderate to major flooding ,
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this is my river.

And just down the coast near Gosford
Hawkesbury and Lower Nepean Rivers == minor to major flooding

The Gosford mulloway specialists will likely already have their boats in the water and be competing for the best spots to drop anchor or to tie to the rail or road bridge pilons.


<<< If I had live bait and it wasn't so windy or the seas so dangerous, I'd be looking seriously at fishing the harbor or Nobbys or Stockton Sea Walls , or Stockton Beach in the next few days for monster mulloway .
I've caught some huge fish in "major freshes" but only when I had either live mullet , or live yellowtail to use as bait, as the fish find the live bait by the vibrations it makes when it's scared or trying to escape.
Dead baits ( like whole fillets of mullet or whole fresh squid or whole dead fish ) are less successful in the very silty water .

I'm getting too old and soft to sit all day or all night in driving rain and gales and to put up with being sandblasted as I drag my jewie trolley from the car park to one of my fishing spots ( with a 35L trum full of water and live fish , through sand drifts ( on the top of the breakwall ) , and do it all again to being my remaining live baits and any fish I've caught back to the car .
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CBDs: Cleopatra & Caesar born 28Jan19.
Puff (RIP 10Dec15),Rex (RIP 16Mar17),Toothless (RIP 26Nov17).Peppa (RIP 22Mar19).
EBTSs : George & Mildred (born july 2010).
EWSs : new rescues Cheakie (subadult M) Nov 2019, Gutzy (F) 27Sep19, Fluffy (F) rescued injured by lawnwacker 14Nov17, Wriggles (F) - injured rescue, over 8 yrs old, RIP 2Feb16 old age. Lucky juvenile (M) - cat attack rescue (lost r-eye, broken r-lower jaw), fatal SI RIP 21Jul2010.
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Re: Another dangerous fire day , this time we were effected

Postby NBGwen » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:18 am

I'm made of sugar and melt in the rain LOL! Seriously though, we don't get monsoons here, I never considered how much the farmers and all would welcome the rains in any form.

Right now, in Atlantic Canada, we're getting hit by freezing rain. I stayed home with my 6 year old...very glad to stay in from this rain.

In the summer here's though, the rain has a warmth to it. I live being out in it. I used to fish too...can't anymore (I've developed an aversion to it, aka I can't kill the fish oh my).
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