How Come We Don't Get A lot of Pagona barbata in the U.S.?
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Well for one it's been illegal for a long time now to export any native species of AU, thus we can't import them easily... But some people are still getting their hands on a few from time to time... But most of the Barbata bloodlines coming into the USA now are from Europe, Canada, and South Africa...
But the biggest reason why they were not imported as much in the 60's, 70's and early 80's was due to they are not nearly as colorful in the wild as Central or Vitticeps... Sad but true... Appearance was the main determinant in what species was exported and which ones were left along... Also in the 60's-70's the knowledge of actually how many species existed and where they existed was very small...
Hope this helps,
Anthony
But the biggest reason why they were not imported as much in the 60's, 70's and early 80's was due to they are not nearly as colorful in the wild as Central or Vitticeps... Sad but true... Appearance was the main determinant in what species was exported and which ones were left along... Also in the 60's-70's the knowledge of actually how many species existed and where they existed was very small...
Hope this helps,
Anthony
Thank you very much for the replies. Yeah, I know Australia has clamped down on all wildlife being exported, but recently I've talked to several people who have exported Australian tarantulas. Apparently, they have been breeding tarantulas in Australia for quite sometime, and after several generations of captive breeding, they were able to get permit stating that they are not wild caught and were able to export them to Europe and North America. I was wondering why they couldn't do the same with the barbata. Don't the barbatas get a little bigger than the vitticeps? That's why I love to own one.
Hello,
There are no Barbatas in the US. They do not cross breed with Vitticeps very well anyway, & the clutchrates are smaller.
Actually, the pics of barbatas that my friends have all sent me from Bundaberg & Sydney have shown large male Barbatas well over 26 inches long, which is not a small dragon.
They are a thinner type of body not rounded like the Vitticeps, but, very long in comparison to other dragons.
Tracie
There are no Barbatas in the US. They do not cross breed with Vitticeps very well anyway, & the clutchrates are smaller.
Actually, the pics of barbatas that my friends have all sent me from Bundaberg & Sydney have shown large male Barbatas well over 26 inches long, which is not a small dragon.
They are a thinner type of body not rounded like the Vitticeps, but, very long in comparison to other dragons.
Tracie
Hello,
Yes, the crosses originally done by the Germans thus the german giant morphs were between the vitticeps & the barbatas. If you do a google search the sizes for Barbatas are rather long. I do not have it on my documents at the moment, but all of the adult barbatas that I have seen from bundaberg anyway, were not central crosses. They were huge. They may not reach german giant potential, but also you have to remember you may not always see full grown ones either in the wild as much as in captivity.
I wish I could see some in the wild.
Tracie
Yes, the crosses originally done by the Germans thus the german giant morphs were between the vitticeps & the barbatas. If you do a google search the sizes for Barbatas are rather long. I do not have it on my documents at the moment, but all of the adult barbatas that I have seen from bundaberg anyway, were not central crosses. They were huge. They may not reach german giant potential, but also you have to remember you may not always see full grown ones either in the wild as much as in captivity.
I wish I could see some in the wild.
Tracie
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I was out walking my dogs the other day and i saw a wild one basking half in a river made from the snow melt-off. I took some photos.... I just cant seem to find them. The place where I bought my Beardie from also had a group of them in a large viv in the middle of the shop. They all look fair big.
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