Lay Box Substrate

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Lay Box Substrate

Postby Viperbsd » Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:51 am

Hi, I’m getting prepared for my Bearded Dragon, Ahsoka, to lay infertile eggs. I was wondering if I can use the Vitamin-Fortified Calcium Carbonate Vita-Sand as the digging substrate? I plan on putting the sand in a rubbermaid container. It’s orange sand, so it looks similar to what they would dig in Australia.

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Re: Lay Box Substrate

Postby AHBD » Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:31 pm

Hi there, it may be best not to use it because you need to make it damp and beardies are more inclined to eat it [ leading to possible impaction ] because it may taste good or if they are low on calcium. I've made quite a few layboxes with either sand [ children's play sand from Lowe's ] or a sand /topsoil mix. Or sand with coco fiber. Then you need to add enough water so that it holds it's shape when the beardie digs her cave. You can check youtube, there are several good tutorials on making layboxes.
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Re: Lay Box Substrate

Postby Viperbsd » Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:39 pm

AHBD wrote:Hi there, it may be best not to use it because you need to make it damp and beardies are more inclined to eat it [ leading to possible impaction ] because it may taste good or if they are low on calcium. I've made quite a few layboxes with either sand [ children's play sand from Lowe's ] or a sand /topsoil mix. Or sand with coco fiber. Then you need to add enough water so that it holds it's shape when the beardie digs her cave. You can check youtube, there are several good tutorials on making layboxes.


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Re: Lay Box Substrate

Postby AHBD » Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:40 pm

You're welcome !
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Re: Lay Box Substrate

Postby Shaun78 » Wed Oct 07, 2020 4:37 am

Viperbsd wrote:Hi, I’m getting prepared for my Bearded Dragon, Ahsoka, to lay infertile eggs. I was wondering if I can use the Vitamin-Fortified Calcium Carbonate Vita-Sand as the digging substrate? I plan on putting the sand in a rubbermaid container. It’s orange sand, so it looks similar to what they would dig in Australia.

Thanks

Off topic but I love the name of your dragon. Dressing her up as a jedi for Halloween?
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Re: Lay Box Substrate

Postby Viperbsd » Sat Oct 10, 2020 11:18 am

Shaun78 wrote:
Viperbsd wrote:Hi, I’m getting prepared for my Bearded Dragon, Ahsoka, to lay infertile eggs. I was wondering if I can use the Vitamin-Fortified Calcium Carbonate Vita-Sand as the digging substrate? I plan on putting the sand in a rubbermaid container. It’s orange sand, so it looks similar to what they would dig in Australia.

Thanks

Off topic but I love the name of your dragon. Dressing her up as a jedi for Halloween?


Haha! Yep!!!
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Re: Lay Box Substrate

Postby Viperbsd » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:51 am

AHBD wrote:Hi there, it may be best not to use it because you need to make it damp and beardies are more inclined to eat it [ leading to possible impaction ] because it may taste good or if they are low on calcium. I've made quite a few layboxes with either sand [ children's play sand from Lowe's ] or a sand /topsoil mix. Or sand with coco fiber. Then you need to add enough water so that it holds it's shape when the beardie digs her cave. You can check youtube, there are several good tutorials on making layboxes.


Can I place the laybox inside her little hideout in the vivarium? Thats where she was digging at the ground.
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Re: Lay Box Substrate

Postby AHBD » Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:22 am

Yes, that should be fine.
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Re: Lay Box Substrate

Postby Viperbsd » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:31 am

AHBD wrote:Yes, that should be fine.


Is it okay that she licks the sand? I think she wasn’t doing it to eat it, but like navigating. Here is her making a huge mess in her vivarium. She must want to lay. [Click image to enlarge]
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Re: Lay Box Substrate

Postby AHBD » Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:40 am

They always taste substrate, it's totally normal. There's too much paranoia about sand, I had beardie living on it for years as many other keepers did . In Australia beardie owners often keep them on sand as well. Anyway, yea they have a great time flinging it around. Do you have a bigger plastic box ? This is what I used and if you cut the hole in the top they can't throw all the sand out.

https://www.beardeddragon.org/useruploa ... _large.jpg

Your girl may still use the small one but a bigger one would be better. If you can cover the sides with cardboard somehow she will feel safer, like she's in a cave.
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Re: Lay Box Substrate

Postby Viperbsd » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:15 pm

AHBD wrote:They always taste substrate, it's totally normal. There's too much paranoia about sand, I had beardie living on it for years as many other keepers did . In Australia beardie owners often keep them on sand as well. Anyway, yea they have a great time flinging it around. Do you have a bigger plastic box ? This is what I used and if you cut the hole in the top they can't throw all the sand out.

https://www.beardeddragon.org/useruploa ... _large.jpg

Your girl may still use the small one but a bigger one would be better. If you can cover the sides with cardboard somehow she will feel safer, like she's in a cave.


I could probably get a bigger one. Do you think thats enough sand? Shes already reached the bottom of the container
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Re: Lay Box Substrate

Postby Viperbsd » Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:21 am

Is there any other reason my beardie would be digging? She started doing it recently, but I don’t feel any eggs when I rub her belly. When she is in the laybox, she is constantly digging, but she doesn’t lay any eggs.
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Re: Lay Box Substrate

Postby AHBD » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:12 pm

They usually prefer a bigger + deeper box but they are soooo unpredictable. Sometimes even with a perfect laybox they will decide to lay somewhere else. And sometimes they just have the urge to dig for hours despite not even having eggs to lay.
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Re: Lay Box Substrate

Postby Viperbsd » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:39 am

AHBD wrote:They usually prefer a bigger + deeper box but they are soooo unpredictable. Sometimes even with a perfect laybox they will decide to lay somewhere else. And sometimes they just have the urge to dig for hours despite not even having eggs to lay.


Yeah, I’ve just decided to let her play in the sand box for about an hour every day, then I’ll wash her off after. She loves drilling the sand with her little snout, it’s so adorable. I reckon it’s also a good workout too!
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Re: Lay Box Substrate

Postby AHBD » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:43 am

Beardies really love to dig and it really is an excellent work out for them !
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