Free range lizard

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Free range lizard

Postby Grannysmith » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:23 pm

My husband wants our dragon to be able to run around. We have two places set up for him to have heat and light, but he has ladders he can climb up and down and get out. He has safe places to go, but I worry that he isn’t getting the light and heat he needs. Some days he will stay under the lights all day, and some days maybe and hour, then he will find a place to hide and go to sleep. I also take him outside often to get direct sunlight. Also he sleeps in a hammock but he won’t get out of it until I lift him and and put him under his light! He will be awake looking at me! He can safely get out of the hammock. I’ve had to run out the door in a hurry and when I have gotten home, he would still be sitting there! Of course I try not to let that happen, but I’m curious as to why he won’t get out on his own. Is he just lazy, or too cold? I’d like comments and advice but please don’t attack me! Thanks!
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Re: Free range lizard

Postby kingofnobbys » Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:00 am

Easy fixed , it's fine to let a pet bearded dragon have some free range time inside the house so long you ensure he has access only to safe areas in the house , and outside (but under CONSTANT SUPERVISION as there are dangerous animals outside that you have no control over).

For inside - buy an 80W or 100W MVB , an ExoTerra reflector dome (about 6" diam) and an adjustable lamp stand , and visit the local pawnshop (to get a 10 pound weight).

These are good :
MVB = https://www.arcadiareptile.com/lighting ... king-lamp/ , 80W is will be effective at 15" - 16"
Dome = https://zoomed.com/deluxe-porcelain-clamp-lamp/ , comes with a steel clamp ( I don't use the clamps ) , but they can be used to attach the dome to a coffee table or chair base or chair arm rest )
Lampstand = https://zoomed.com/reptile-lamp-stand/ .
Simply place something heavy over the "foot" to stop the stand from falling over, adjust stand height to give a basking spot on the floor at about 40 degC from the MVB (which also provide UVA & UVB) and you are set and your dragon will have a nice place to recharge and bask when freeranging.
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EWSs : Fluffy - 4yr rescued lawnmowing accident victim 14Nov17.
Lucky - cat attack rescue, fatal SI RIP 21Jul2010.
Wriggles - rescued injured ,thought she was a big lizard, over 8 yrs old, RIP 2Feb16. .
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Re: Free range lizard

Postby claudiusx » Fri Apr 26, 2019 5:31 am

OP already stated that they do that... mentioned literally in the second sentence lol. that wasn't the question.

Op,

To some point you've got to trust that your dragon knows what your dragon needs and when it needs it. If the area you have for him to free roam its big then you can always setup a few more basking areas if you want. But what I'd do if I was set on a free range dragon and I was concerned about the lack of basking, would be to simply keep him in his cage for two hours a day to make sure.
But realistically, if you have basking areas set up and your dragon is cold, he will find it. It might take some time for him to learn his new larger environment but they are smart enough to know what they need.

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Re: Free range lizard

Postby Aaradimian » Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:00 am

Poster CooperDragon has a free-range setup that seems to work for his dragons. Maybe he will comment or you can PM him.
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Re: Free range lizard

Postby kingofnobbys » Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:05 am

claudiusx wrote:OP already stated that they do that... mentioned literally in the second sentence lol. that wasn't the question.

Op,

To some point you've got to trust that your dragon knows what your dragon needs and when it needs it. If the area you have for him to free roam its big then you can always setup a few more basking areas if you want. But what I'd do if I was set on a free range dragon and I was concerned about the lack of basking, would be to simply keep him in his cage for two hours a day to make sure.
But realistically, if you have basking areas set up and your dragon is cold, he will find it. It might take some time for him to learn his new larger environment but they are smart enough to know what they need.

-Brandon


I was aware of that , the advise on suitable kit was more general guidance for Noobs who don't know how to set up a suitable basking station for their inhouse freeranging reptile , this is a case where a good MVB is a good bit of kit to have , not everyone can allow their pet dragons to have supervised freeranging outside in the natural sunlight on warm days.

I think a minimum of 2 hours under the basking globe & UV source after EACH MEAL is the bare minimum to ensure the meal is properly digested and metabolized.
So for a hatchling , the minimum daily basking time requirement is 6 hours.
For a juvenile , two meals per day , the minimum basking time requirement is 2 hr AFTER each meal so 4 hours per day MINIMUM.
An adult , 2 hours minimum AFTER each meal .

Ref: A Guide to Keeping Australian Dragons In Captivity by Dr.D.Brown ISBN10: 0987244728
CBDs: Cleopatra & Caesar born 28Jan19.
Puff (RIP 10Dec15),Rex (RIP 16Mar17),Toothless (RIP 26Nov17).Peppa (RIP 22Mar19).
EBTSs : George & Mildred (born july 2010).
EWSs : Fluffy - 4yr rescued lawnmowing accident victim 14Nov17.
Lucky - cat attack rescue, fatal SI RIP 21Jul2010.
Wriggles - rescued injured ,thought she was a big lizard, over 8 yrs old, RIP 2Feb16. .
Gecko : Godzilla the hatchling GEHYRA GECKO (hatched May 2019)
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