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How do you open a beardie's mouth?

Postby Aaradimian » Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:28 am

Hi,

I didn't post this in ER because it's not an emergency, but my recent adoptee Helmut got his first checkup and has pinworms and an over-abundance of amoebas according to the lab report. They prescribed 2 oral meds and I'm trying to figure out how to get him to open up. He's smaller & doesn't have much of a beard to pull down on as I've seen some suggest. I don't want to apply much force for fear of hurting him, and he's fairly new to the family, so I'm trying not to alienate him, but I know he needs his meds. What's the most gentle and effective way to get this done?
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Re: How do you open a beardie's mouth?

Postby kingofnobbys » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:52 am

How old is the dragon ?

This is very much an age / size dependent thing.
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Re: How do you open a beardie's mouth?

Postby Aaradimian » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:30 am

kingofnobbys wrote:How old is the dragon ?

This is very much an age / size dependent thing.

Approx. 6 months old
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Re: How do you open a beardie's mouth?

Postby vrenee1018 » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:03 pm

I had to give Tampi medication for pinworms when she was between 7-8 months and I had the hardest and most emotional time with her, however, I did figure out what worked best for her and when I occasionally do it now, she opens without a fuss. I pinch the sides of her mouth and push down a bit. She starts to look down, but eventually opens her mouth and looks up. I had to rather forceful the first couple of times, but I tried to keep her comfortable by placing her on the counter and in her little bed with a blankey on. She did hiss at me a couple of times when she absolutely was not having it and I think you may have a couple rough rounds of it, but just have to remember that you're doing it for their own good and they don't really understand that, so a little bit of force is necessary.

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Re: How do you open a beardie's mouth?

Postby kingofnobbys » Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:47 pm

Can't add much to that.

If you still have problems , consider purchasing 18G feeding syringe (the straight versions are the best to get) , see viewtopic.php?f=45&t=232687
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to help get the meds into the dragon's mouth, they are made from surgical grade stainless steel and are literally indestructible but are made so there are no sharp edges on the business end so an angry dragon can chew on it and will never hurt it's self , bite a bit off , or damage the needle.
Also will keep your hand far enough away to avoid being nipped or bitten.

Only needs to go into the mouth , past the teeth to get the med in.

I use this arrangement when I'm giving Peppa olive oil.
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Re: How do you open a beardie's mouth?

Postby Aaradimian » Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:00 pm

Thanks to you both! I'll give your suggestions a try. I had just enough success with the method shown in this video to get some panacur into him tonight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNSL7OqDzjo
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Re: How do you open a beardie's mouth?

Postby krba201076 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:08 am

I had to give my juvenile beardie parasite meds as well. I folded a index card in half and used it to pry her mouth open.
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Re: How do you open a beardie's mouth?

Postby vrenee1018 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:35 am

Hello there. Were you able to administer meds to your little one?
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Re: How do you open a beardie's mouth?

Postby Aaradimian » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:51 am

vrenee1018 wrote:Hello there. Were you able to administer meds to your little one?


Yep. It was a bit of a struggle for the 1st dose, but I am getting better at figuring out the right spots to hold & pull. Luckily, he only has one dose left. My adult is still kinda, sorta brumating and has been worrying us by being up for longer periods of time with no appetite, so I'm hoping I don't have to start syringe feeding him to keep his weight up. That will make this bit with the little guy seem like child's play.
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Re: How do you open a beardie's mouth?

Postby vrenee1018 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:54 am

Aaradimian wrote:
vrenee1018 wrote:Hello there. Were you able to administer meds to your little one?


Yep. It was a bit of a struggle for the 1st dose, but I am getting better at figuring out the right spots to hold & pull. Luckily, he only has one dose left. My adult is still kinda, sorta brumating and has been worrying us by being up for longer periods of time with no appetite, so I'm hoping I don't have to start syringe feeding him to keep his weight up. That will make this bit with the little guy seem like child's play.


Glad he is doing well! Is your adult using tons of energy while he's up, or just laying there relaxing most of the time?
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Re: How do you open a beardie's mouth?

Postby Aaradimian » Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:37 am

Glad he is doing well! Is your adult using tons of energy while he's up, or just laying there relaxing most of the time?


He is mostly lazy, but had a burst of energy a day or two ago. We are not panicking yet, but it is weird to see our little one eating like a champ while his big brother won't even touch a single dubia.
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Re: How do you open a beardie's mouth?

Postby vrenee1018 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:19 am

Aaradimian wrote:
He is mostly lazy, but had a burst of energy a day or two ago. We are not panicking yet, but it is weird to see our little one eating like a champ while his big brother won't even touch a single dubia.


That's how Tampi was when she was brumating. She would wake up for 2 days with these little bursts of energy and then relax mostly or fall back asleep for the rest of the week.
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Re: How do you open a beardie's mouth?

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Re: How do you open a beardie's mouth?

Postby Drache613 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 4:25 pm

Hello,

I hope he is doing better now. Are you done with the meds or have you got more doses to give?
Have you reviewed your tank setup with us, just to be sure everything is all correct?
After medication rounds, it can sometimes take them a little while to get back to normal. Did you
use a probiotic also to help with appetite?
Since he was on two types of medications, that can definitely affect his appetite.

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Re: How do you open a beardie's mouth?

Postby Aaradimian » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:14 am

Drache613 wrote:Hello,

I hope he is doing better now. Are you done with the meds or have you got more doses to give?
Have you reviewed your tank setup with us, just to be sure everything is all correct?
After medication rounds, it can sometimes take them a little while to get back to normal. Did you
use a probiotic also to help with appetite?
Since he was on two types of medications, that can definitely affect his appetite.

Tracie


Hi Tracie,

Actually, we're talking two different dragons here. The one needing the meds is my younger 6 mo. old. He's actually got a good appetite. The one not eating is my 1.5 y.o. who had been brumating but is now up. I don't know if he's quite finished, so am not worried too much yet. Still, it would be nice if he'd eat a little in front of me as a reassurance. He won't eat any bugs but his tray of greens is disturbed when I get home. Not sure if he's eating or just walking through them, though! :lol:
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