Sexing dragons with flashlight?

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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby Poggerna » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:37 pm

AHBD wrote:Yes, sometimes you're just seeing the muscles/tendons on the side. Babies can even often be sexed, watch this video , starting at the 1:30 mark. You have to be very gentle when doing this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlwOLEQYmSM


Oh wow, I literally just found that video myself too! Are you secretly me, but cooler? :lol:

He was sexed as a boy when he was listed by the breeder, but breeder couldn't see the bulges just before boxing him (so I presume she had done the tail check test before). I was told sometimes they could "hide" their bits and advised to try the flashlight test after a week (I did it a little sooner, but I had a hard time seeing things as previously mentioned). I wonder which observation is more reliable? And can a beardie who had previously displayed 2 bulges randomly not display them for a while?

And just to be clear, was the "yes" at my first question about both sexes having a pouch behind the vent or just to the muscles/tendons question?

I am probably making way too big a deal over this, so much apologies, asdkfjasd.
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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby AHBD » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:14 pm

Oh I don't know about any coolness factor, :) But yeah I meant the muscles on the side can look like hemi pene bulges at times. But look closely at the pictures of the adults from the article that I linked .
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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby Poggerna » Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:15 am

Yeah, I saw. :lol:

I appreciate it, but I guess I was just wondering if the males are always flat behind the vent or if it's just the angle (and bigger bulges). I saw in the sexing baby beardies video that the bulges are more circular on them when they're that small, and sometimes I THINK I see mine has similar bulges but the center pouch is what's throwing me off, hence my question if that's something normal at a young age (I've read that everyone looks female when they're very young). Guess if this stays the same by 6 months, I'll know for sure I have a girl. XD

Thanks for all your help!
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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby kayroy824 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:56 am

Can anyone pleaseeee help me sex this this cutie ?
I’m new to the beardy community and I couldn’t get the flashlight method to work for me so I took a picture in hopes for some help. [Click image to enlarge]
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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby AHBD » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:05 am

Hi Kayroy, if you want to start a thread and include a few more pics with better light and the tail arched back higher that would help. That pic there is not clear enough. It would be nice for you to start a thread anyway to introduce your little one. :)
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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby Poggerna » Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:13 am

Finally tried again with the flashlight (no photos, tragically because I was out of hands u.u), but THIS TIME I definitely saw the faint silhouettes of "prongs" coming off the center "box"/"bar" (that actually seems to be growing smaller these past few days) that line up with the tiny bulges I'm seeing. Ardie is indeed a boy! :mrgreen:

Thanks to everyone who helped me with this First World Conundrum! :lol:
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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby Poggerna » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:04 am

Adding on a bit for anyone else like me's benefit, did anyone else notice that on hatchlings and maybe some pre-pubescent males, the hemipenes look more like "Mickey ears" than ovals?

Though on Ardie, his bulges look more like big cat ears while the "Mickey ears" show up on flashlight. Anyone else have this experience?
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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby kayroy824 » Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:49 pm

Can anyone help me with my little dunner ? I believe my baby is a he but I am not sure. I tried with the flashlight but couldn’t get a clear view so these pics are all I have. Any insight will help, thank you in advanced :)[Click image to enlarge]
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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby AHBD » Tue Jan 05, 2021 2:58 pm

Hi there, you just need to arch the tail up higher, almost straight up.
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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby kayroy824 » Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:03 pm

Here are some better ones like you suggested. I’m like 80% sure it’s female but I want to be sure.. thank you :) in advance .[Click image to enlarge]
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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby AHBD » Tue Jan 12, 2021 4:07 pm

Yeah that does look like a female for sure.
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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby Poggerna » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:07 am

Does look female, but I feel like I’m seeing very tiny hemipenal bulges at some angles.

Probably worth noting that some males look female at this age because the hemipenes aren’t well-developed. 6-8 months is generally when we’d know for sure, but for the time being, if you think you have a girl, it probably is.

That reminds me, I came across this article that also includes an image of a developing male's bulges, which I hardly see people talk about distinguishing: https://www.lizards101.com/how-to-tell- ... ull-guide/

Ardie's bulges presently look like that. Very hard to spot unless you know what you're looking for.
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