Sexing dragons with flashlight?

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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby AHBD » Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:49 am

Hi there, Lanin is a male. There are 2 bulges above the vent and you can see the outline in the flashlight picture. :) Now you have to pop in + say hello once in a while with more pics of your guy !
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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby MSMorgan » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:11 pm

Thank you for your reply. I'll put a post in the Newby forum. He's quite different from any other reptile we've had, but loved all the same for his individuality and quirkiness as our first BD.
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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby ArcticWolf3049 » Sat May 23, 2020 9:32 am

I tried very hard but my phone flashlight I guess isn't strong enough or Kayda is too young lol, I'll try again in a few months
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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby MSMorgan » Sat May 23, 2020 9:54 am

ArcticWolf3049 wrote:I tried very hard but my phone flashlight I guess isn't strong enough or Kayda is too young lol, I'll try again in a few months


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How old is your BD? Phone light is not ideal. You can get super bright LED lights from many distributors now days for very low prices. You might also want to get someone to assist you while getting your BD situated under the light. As you can see by my pics, it wasn't easy, :banghead: but I got it done.
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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby Ruffus34 » Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:07 am

So, is it really a useless idea to check my BD if it is only 5 month? Or it is enough? When I purchased it, the breeder said me it is male. How did he know that for sure so early?
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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby WinFam01 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:41 am

5 months is pretty early, but you can look - then you'll know what you're seeing when the hemipenes start to show (provided it really is male). IDK how breeders do it, they just have lots of experience I guess. 🤷🏼‍♀️
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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby Poggerna » Thu Oct 08, 2020 10:26 am

Ardie is mad at me after I spent way too long being confused if my angle was wrong so I won't be re-attempting anytime soon.

Can hemipenes be spotted at 3 months or are they still too small? I swear when I check with my eyes, I see the two bulges (complete with the concave divot and hourglass shape), though they are too tiny for me to be sure, but when I try the flashlight, I see jack squat. The one time I visualized the "box", I can't tell if it's my imagination or if I see little "antennae" coming off or if it's normal for a beardie uterus to look like that.
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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby AHBD » Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:55 pm

They can sometimes be sexed after just a few weeks so if you see the bumps that is always more accurate than the flashlight method. The F.L. method does not always work with babies or smaller juveniles. Next time you try [ when Ardie lets you :) ] post a couple of pics .
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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby Poggerna » Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:34 pm

AHBD wrote:They can sometimes be sexed after just a few weeks so if you see the bumps that is always more accurate than the flashlight method. The F.L. method does not always work with babies or smaller juveniles. Next time you try [ when Ardie lets you :) ] post a couple of pics .


OOOOOOOH, good to know! :o

I see everyone everywhere touting the flashlight method as the most accurate, but they also only seem to account for older beardies so I was confused what to believe. XDDDD

I'll post when I remember to bring my phone with me to handle Ardie. Or have someone help me take it while I hold him because he refuses to stand still when I try to do it with one hand, lol! :lol:
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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby Poggerna » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:22 pm

Not the best angle or lighting, buy I made do with what I got and adjusted the contrast a bit so it's easier to see:

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No flashlight pic yet (Ardie was annoyed enough already I was pulling up his tail for millionth time X'D) but are those tiny nubs off the pouch immature hemipenal bulges? Or can that happen with females too?

Sometimes the bulges are more distinct, but this time took a bit more effort.
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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby AHBD » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:45 pm

Looks like a female from that pic.
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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby Poggerna » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:57 pm

AHBD wrote:Looks like a female from that pic.


So little "horns" can be a thing that happens? This is confusing me because I can't find similar images. They're all either an evenly round oval or a U-shape, but I tend to see "cat ears" shapes over the bulge if I go full 90 degree.

He's only 3 1/2 months and 12 inches, so I'm confused.
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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby AHBD » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:01 pm

It's tricky sometimes but check it with the pics in this article [ scroll right to the pics ]

https://www.beardeddragon.org/articles/sexing/
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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby Poggerna » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:42 pm

AHBD wrote:It's tricky sometimes but check it with the pics in this article [ scroll right to the pics ]

https://www.beardeddragon.org/articles/sexing/


I guess a better question is: do both sexes have a singular bulge when they're very young (i.e. pre-pubescent) or are they definitely female if we can see just one bulge at baseline? Just about every photo I can find are of older juveniles or sub-adults/adults, but I did come across at least a couple males who seemed to have a base "pouch" under the hemipenes.

Sometimes I think I see little bulges on either side of the "pouch" but I guess they could also just be muscle, hence my question. :lol:
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Re: Sexing dragons with flashlight?

Postby AHBD » Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:00 pm

Yes, sometimes you're just seeing the muscles/tendons on the side. Babies can even often be sexed, watch this video , starting at the 1:30 mark. You have to be very gentle when doing this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlwOLEQYmSM
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