tgolden":v8a8dsfk said:
go to you tube and type in sexing bearded dragon and there is some"how to"videos. Head and tail size its not always true.
Same with parrots, but it can help a person make an educated "guess" until the DNA results come in. I've also had older birds surgically sexed, mostly when I wanted to know more about the overall health of the bird as well as its sex. One poor female grey (guessed correctly) had made the local pet shop rounds. She was not pet material. She was absolutely miserable around people, so I wanted to settle her into a place away from people with a compatible mate. When stressed, she growled so hard her cloaca prolapsed. It was so sad, but I had to make her undergo one more horrible experience at the hands of the vet to make sure she was OK.
She was fine. After she was set up in a large cage away from people, she felt so good she set up housekeeping
without her intended partner and laid two batches of infertile eggs. I took the nest box down until they could form a pair bond (6 months or so), put it up and got 100% fertile eggs. Back then I didn't have a bad back so I built all my cages, etc. It's hard to even imagine that now.
Later I found out the pair produced occasional chicks with heart defects. It happened once to me and I cried buckets when the 8-week-old chick died on my lap. When I sold the pair, I warned the new owners about the heart defect and that the pair might have to be separated. Sadly, the pair produced another chick with a heart defect. The vet didn't think it was genetic, but it turned out it was. Very sad for the poor female grey who had had so much stress in her life already. The lady I sold them to had to give them up for the same main reason I had to: health issues. She had huge, luxurious indoor / outdoor cages for her breeders. I slashed the prices so my breeders would go to that great place. Now I don't know where they are.
In my will I've declared I want my Amazon parrot to go to the The Gabriel Foundation parrot rescue. But will they go belly up like the place where I sent my breeders?
Back to sexing parrots: At the sexing clinics, a vet would show up and perform surgery on multiple parrots to determine sex and overall health. We aviculturists would declare whether the bird was male or female beforehand. Most of the time we got it right, but there were a few times we were totally surprised. One lady showed up with a "pair" of lilac-crowned Amazons. One looked female and the other looked male. Turns out all of us were wrong and one of the females was a male. It was a reminder that you need DNA or surgical proof when it comes to sexually monomorphic animals.
If I didn't have the chicks DNA-sexed, I would give the clients my best guess and say that's all it was.
Seems like forever ago now.
Sorry I waxed nostalgic / sad. I miss my breeders and wonder where they are.